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No. 110237

American anons, who are you supporting and why? Let's try to keep arguments minimal… I realize this is a very controversial election, but stating why you're for a certain candidate may help someone from the other side understand.

No. 110238

Personally, as much as it pains me to say, I feel forced to go with Hillary. She doesn't deserve to be our first female president, but she's for manditory vaccinations (unless a legitimate medical reason keeps a child from getting them) whereas Trump and Johnson aren't. It's a pretty important issue to me, considering this new wave of ignorant anti-vaxxers.

No. 110240

>>110238
Same. I'd rather have Hillary than Hitler 2.0 who hates women that aren't models, PoC, homosexuals and poor/middle class people. At least Hillary pretends to like all those people and won't strip them of their rights. And she won't starts a damn nuclear war because she doesn't have a quick temper like Trump. And she's been in politics for years. Bill Clinton for First Lady.

No. 110243

>>110240
>using the term PoC unironically

Am I being rused?

>And she won't starts a damn nuclear war


She wants an even more aggressive stance against Russia.

No. 110245

>>110243
Wow, look who didn't read the OP. Who are you for and why? Simple questions, really. You're attacking someone without first giving your own stance.

No. 110246

I'm voting Tramp!!!!! He's awesome and really is gonna do us some good.

No. 110247

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No. 110265

Honestly Trump.

Hillary represents everything I hate about politicians. She thinks she should be president because she's shaken the right hands and made the right promises to the right people. She'll say anything to try and get a vote (contradicting herself on a daily basis) and is already drowning in controversies and 'suspicion' of corruption.

Trump will have no support either side of the aisle, which should provide a solid four years of all talk and no action. He'll get the wall built, but tighter border security isn't really a bad thing. It will hasten the split in the liberals and will should completely destroy the GOP, hopefully reforming as a sane right-wing party without the Puritanism. Maybe then some decent fucking candidates can rise from the ashes.

The vindication that genuine bigots will feel following a Trump win does concern me though.

No. 110268

>>110238
Single-issue voting is bad, anon.
Our city elected a mayor in the wake of the gay right's boom because he had a man for a spouse.
To date, he's spent six billion dollars of taxpayer money on a highway renovation which was doomed to fail from the start. He started a city-wide bike share service which costs more than gas and takes longer than a car due to non-existent bike infrastructure outside of the tourist/rich neighborhoods. All that and he recently took a substantial amount of money out of the firemen's budget to paint rainbows over all the sidewalks in an entire district.

If you're supporting a presidential candidate because you think they can make common sense mandatory, I've got some bad news for you.

No. 110269

I wish trump just broke with the republican base on issues like abortion and contraceptives. I'm one hundred percent on board with him when it comes to issues like immigration and trade.

No. 110274

I'm voting Trump out of spite/just to watch the world burn. I live in a blue state anyway so it doesn't make much of a difference.

No. 110284

>>110268
Except that voting for someone based on their political stance vs voting for someone for their sexual orientation is not the same thing. I agree with her on a couple of other things, though admittedly not much. However, I agree even less with Trump and Johnson.

No. 110308

Hillary is the most ardently neo-liberal of all the candidates. There's no reasonable way to dispute this.

No. 110313

>>110265
The first sensible reason to vote for Trump that I have seen thus far.

No. 110319

I like Trump on a few things, but I just feel like he'd be way too reckless as president. Probably going to end up voting Libertarian this year to get some of their views more in the limelight. I don't consider myself a libertarian, and I'm not a huge fan of Gary Johnson, but I agree with enough of their stances which neither party seems to address and hope they gain some traction
>>110269
It'd be nice if the GOP bucked off the Evangelicals
Lower taxes and smaller government resonates with a lot of people I know personally, but many are pretty put off by all the fundamentalist garbage that comes along with it to appeal to their voterbase

I also can't stop laughing at the hardline Christians who are actually buying up Trump's pandering. I was shooting the shit with my Evangelical neighbor and he said he admired Trump's strong faith

No. 110321

>>110274
California here. I might do the same, kek.

No. 110350

>>110319
What? I wasn't even aware that he was devoutly religious. I mean, he namedrops god to appeal to those kinds of people, but he doesn't seem like a churchgoer.

No. 110355

>>110350
He's only been devoutly religious since he started getting serious about his candidacy.

No. 110379

>>110350
He isn't

No. 110453

Trump.

Why? His plans make the most sense (except for his stance on abortion). He wants to unite all Americans, unlike Hillary who loves dividing Americans (e.g. "whites vs. blacks", "rich vs. middle-class", etc.).

Hillary's "I'm like your abuelita" and "basket of deplorables" comments rubbed me the wrong way. She says half of Trump supporters are a basket of deplorables while the other half are desperately voting for Trump because they believe the Democratic Party failed them.

So where does that leave our troops who support Trump? Are they deplorables or are they the ones who feel like Obama and the goody two-shoes Democrats failed them?

Hillary has stated that she is willing to go to war if she gets hacked as president, meaning she can pretend to be hacked, blame Russia and declare war on them.

I am NOT willing to go to war and possibly die just because some bitch broke the law and chose a shitty password.

No. 110464

Trump, because like his policies. Esp the one about child care. And because Hillary is sickly.

No. 110465

>>110464
Hillary is sickly? She got pneumonia. It's pretty common.

No. 110466

>>110465
Pneumonia can be fatal at her age. From Wikipedia:
>Among the very old, the very young, and the chronically ill, pneumonia remains a leading cause of death.

We also don't know if Hillary has pneumonia for a fact since her representatives claimed she was suffering from dehydration, then her doctor said it was pneumonia and her husband, Bill Clinton said it was just a case of the flu.

No. 110467

>>110466
I support Trump, but that easily makes sense.

The representatives just need an explanation so say it's dehydration, the doctor diagnoses pneumonia, and Bill just calls it a flu because most people probably don't know the different. I doubt she'd be running if she was on the verge of death.

No. 110471

>>110319
>libertarian
>Johnson
>ever
WHAT IS ALEPPO?

No. 110472

>>110471
That was an entirely manufactured controversy in my opinion. Name one person who hasn't just completely stumbled one something they actually do know about at points.

I'm sure people have just blanked on shit they consider themselves knowledgeable about before. I'm sure you've seen musicians forget the words to songs they wrote, or forget how to play them, or just fuck up doing either. I've seen fucking Steve Vai mess up relatively simple licks compared to the sort of stuff he normally does up on stage. It happens to everyone.

I'm not even a Johnson supporter, but that entire point was clearly drama created by one of the candidates he's going up against.

No. 110476

>>110240
I TOLD YOU THIS PLACE WAS FILLED WITH SJWS. You fuckers never listen, do you?
Oh, yeah, and PoC is racist you dumb, condescending fuck.

No. 110477

>>110476
Because one person disagrees with you, the whole place is filled with SJW's? Sure, that person's dumb, but there's no need to censor them, they didn't do anything wrong by posting it.

No. 110501

Johnson, because the main two options are a fake pandering crook or a clueless self-absorbed idiot. I realize the chances of him actually winning are pretty much none, but I could never vote for Clinton or Trump with a clear conscious. I don't agree with him on all issues but I find him much more agreeable than the other candidates.

No. 110510


No. 110526

>>110453
Trump knows shit about business. He has bankrupted or dissolved every one of them. Now he only leases his name which isn't the same. Vodka, steak, universities, casinos etc all bust. He is only where he is now because of his fathers money.

Look at what he did in Scotland, not diplomatic or humane at all. The man is a joke, the only thing going for him is that he can get a crowd going unlike Hilary.

No. 110527

>>110313
If his policies on building a wall, mass evictions and deportations as well as spending even more money on the military were to come into force he would bankrupt your country just like he has done with all his businesses

No. 110528

>>110527
Countries generally deport illegal immigrants. This isn't some radical position you stupid fuck. You think Japan would just let 10,000,000 southeast Asians up and move to Japan illegally and then give them citizenship 10 years later?

Get some fucking global perspective. Useless liberal cunts whose entire world is Canada, the US and western Europe.

No. 110531

Bernie Sanders

No. 110542

>>110510
which one are you

No. 110544

>>110527
Did you even read the post I was replying to?

Also
>your
Foreigner detected. If you aren't 'Murican, get out of this thread. You can't vote.

No. 110569

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>>110527

He has hundreds of successful businesses and only 4-7 business bankruptcies depending on what you count. Most of the bankrupt ones are because Atlantic City as a whole went down due to NY and PA being more lax on gambling - everyone lost in Atlantic City.

Also 8 out of 10 businesses fail according to Forbes so Trump has a great record.

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>>110527

When it comes to the wall pic related - Mexico will pay for it and it's WAY WAY cheaper than you think.

Also Trump's deportation policy depends on self-deportation. When the housing market crashed construction jobs went down so much that illegals (From Mexico) exited the country in greater numbers than came. By enforcing laws concerning employment of illegals we'll help jobs dry up thus getting illegals to leave.

Also Eisenhower did a mass deportation of 5 million illegal immigrants using 1950's technology and organizational practices for relatively cheap (Look it up). We could do the same if we wanted.

Finally you're forgetting that SO much of the government spending is due to fraud, abuse, and corruption. Since Trump has no special interests or lobbies behind him he can cut through that and save us some serious cash.

No. 110572

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>>110526
Read my post about the bankrupt business deal.

Also Trump's dad LOANED him 5 million. Trump's worth by is estimated to be around 2 billion to 3 billion as estimated by Forbes and a source I cannot recall, but was very legit (Google it). Given that accountants are EXTREMELY conservative with estimates, the estimates are based on outdated information, and Trump works in real estate which is extremely hard to pin down the estimates could very well be FAR higher.

You don't just turn a 5 million dollar loan into around 1,000 times that amount in net worth and be an idiot. His siblings got the same stuff he did and yet they're FAR less wealthy than him.

Btw his dad died in 1999 (Not 1979 as falsely reported) and gave him around 200 million to 400 million $ not 500 million $.

Also a "joke" doesn't beat the Bush Dynasty and Conservative/Establishment idols like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio while having ASTRONOMICALLY less to spend than them. A "joke" definitely doesn't get well over the majority of delegates and the highest votes cast for any Republican in the history of Republican primaries all from running a small, outgunned, and nimble campaign.

No. 110573

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>>110527
>building a wall
The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed a decade ago and will essentially complete what Trump has promised. Both Bush and Obama have prevented it from happening by starving its funding. Only 700 miles of the 2000 miles are fenced and illegal crossings from those sections have fallen 90%
>mass evictions and deportations
Pres. Obama has deported more immigrants than any other president of the United States. In fact net Mexican immigration is currently negative. This talk of illegal immigration is nothing more than manufactured controversy to rally votes by both parties.
>military spending
Hillary has closer ties to the military-industrial complex than Donald Trump. She is a war hawk with a proven history of egging Obama on to intervene in Libya and Syria. She is also chomping at the bit to directly engage in brinkmanship against Russia, Iran, and China. Trump only cares about dropping more bombs on ISIS.

Another reason why I am voting for Trump is because he will permanently destroy the neoconservative lock on both the GOP and RNC. The Bushes, the Romneys, and Cheney is eagerly awaiting for Trump to lose to Hillary so they return and sweep out all the Trump supporters and restore their status quo. Only by dismantling the neocon political machine can the GOP evolve into an actual centrist party looking to benefit lower and middle income Americans. Hillary represents a return to the 1% controlled status quo.

Keep in mind Trump has been a Democrat for decades until he changed his affiliation in 2014. Yes he is indeed an ego-driven opportunist who saw a weak GOP field and decided to swoop in and steal the primary. That's why many Republicans are afraid of him, because he is not a true conservative by any means. He has a past history of being antiracist and a gay rights advocate. I won't put it past him to pander to the GOP base then switch his policies again once he's in the white house.

>But-but he said outrageous things!

That's the genius of Donald Trump. Compared to all the GOP favorites like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio, he had few resources early in the primary. So he took a page from the reality tv playbook and played the villan. Basically the media was forced to talk about Trump's 'controversies' 24-7 and stole all attention from his primary opponents. Every time his polls dropped, he manufactured another controversy just to get the cameras back on him. Keep in mind Jeb had $150 million in the war chest and Trump had less than 10% in liquid cash back in 2015. "Drumpt" has shown his ability to think outside the box and rewrite the rules when necessary.

No. 110574

>>110573
Never mind, he wasn't a democrat that long. He changed his affiliation multiple times over the years

No. 110576

>>110571
Border Patrolfag here.
God, I've been waiting for this.

No. 110581

Yikes, Anon! You've caught me in a super bad mood, so I'm going to try to discuss this mess of words you decided to subject this thread to. I'm pretty tired, so it's going to be incoherent, but I also don't super care.

>List of successful businesses


Like, this is pretty irrelevant to any sort of discourse regarding the government, because the government does not function like a business in America does. It's goals and mechanisms are completely different. Knowledge in balancing a government budget isn't going to transfer over to being an entrepreneur, or vice versa.

If you all want to get into the Discourse (tm) of whether or not his businesses failed or succeeded, you can. But again, that really has no bearing on whether or not he will be a good president, or should it really be weighed when considering whether or not to vote for him, imo!!

>Mexico is going to pay for it!


I literally have no clue what you're smoking to be as deluded as you are to believe that but:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/who-will-pay-for-mexico-wall-trump-nieto-227607

They're not gonna fucking pay for it, anon! Get back with reality, please!

>WAY WAY cheaper than you think.


If you think I'm stupid enough to take the image macro quoting a flat rate of 8 billion dollars, then, uh…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/

So, not only will it most likely cost much more than 8 billion dollars, Mexico isn't going to pay for it. Trump has completely softened his stance on getting Mexico to pay for the wall. It ain't gonna happen, anon.

>Also Eisenhower did a mass deportation of 5 million illegal immigrants using 1950's technology and organizational practices for relatively cheap (Look it up). We could do the same if we wanted.


Where the fuck are you getting 5 million from? Even DJT didn't quote that number??

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/

>Trump said President Eisenhower "moved 1.5 million illegal immigrants out of this country." Trump is referring to a 1954 campaign known as "Operation Wetback." While the idea that the operation resulted in more than 1 million deportations is not pulled out of thin air, historians widely cite that number as far too high for a variety of reasons – including the fact that hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants would have had to self-deport.


>Also, it wasn’t just a deportation program. The campaign accompanied more legal immigration opportunities.


Please use google, anon!

>Finally you're forgetting that SO much of the government spending is due to fraud, abuse, and corruption. Since Trump has no special interests or lobbies behind him he can cut through that and save us some serious cash.


I'd really, really be interested in hearing you explain this point further.

How do lobbyists cost us money directly? How will this prevent lobbyists from talking to literally anyone other than Trump? Is there any actually legislation Trump is going to present to prevent special interest groups from meddling in Washington? Why do you think that Trump wouldn't interact with lobbyists or special interest groups later on? What makes you so sure he isn't now? lmao

> Trump's worth by is estimated to be around 2 billion to 3 billion as estimated by Forbes and a source I cannot recall, but was very legit (Google it). Given that accountants are EXTREMELY conservative with estimates, the estimates are based on outdated information, and Trump works in real estate which is extremely hard to pin down the estimates could very well be FAR higher.


They're outdated… because Trump reveals little to no financial information of value for them to work with lol?? This is super baseless speculation on your part, imo.

>You don't just turn a 5 million dollar loan into around 1,000 times that amount in net worth and be an idiot.


I think Ben Carson can chop up connected babies better than I ever could, that doesn't mean I think he's smart when it comes to politics. The same applies to Trump - he is wealthy for a litany of reasons, none of which have any bearing as to whether or not I should vote for him to be president.

>Also a "joke" doesn't beat the Bush Dynasty and Conservative/Establishment idols like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio while having ASTRONOMICALLY less to spend than them.


And yet, here we are. Trump's policies (i.e.: torture proposals, disestablishing the EPA, defunding PP until they stop performing abortions etc.) are all jokes. They are ineffective, useless, and do more harm than good. It's a fucking joke that he was nominated, and points towards the pathetic nature of the current state of politics.

>A "joke" definitely doesn't get well over the majority of delegates and the highest votes cast for any Republican in the history of Republican primaries all from running a small, outgunned, and nimble campaign.


Not to mention that jokes were basically the basis of his primary campaign, but whatever!

>>110573

Wasn't he sued by the Department of Justice for discriminating against non-white tenants lmao??? Like, there are very concrete examples of his businesses functioning in a racist way. I'd be real interested in seeing the source to that story your shitty image macro tells, because I'm pretty sure it's not really true, like most of the things you've said in this thread.

>The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed a decade ago and will essentially complete what Trump has promised.


Trump suggested something that will cost a lot more than that specific piece of legislation would have cost to completely fulfill. (See above)

>Both Bush and Obama have prevented it from happening by starving its funding.


uh it's congress's fault for not allocating enough funding for the legislation, actually. But you can convince yourself otherwise, I guess. also provide sources for your stats please

>deportations


Huge difference in 2.5 million over 8 years, and 11 million over a much shorter period of time, with more rigor in finding said individuals. Pretending there's not a difference is sad. Ignoring the economic impact of such a move is also a bit silly.

>She is a war hawk with a proven history of egging Obama on to intervene in Libya and Syria. She is also chomping at the bit to directly engage in brinkmanship against Russia, Iran, and China. Trump only cares about dropping more bombs on ISIS.


This is wild. Hillary is hawkish, not to the degree you're trying to suggest, but I'm glad you're soothed by Trump taking the high road of 'just dropping bombs on ISIS' lmao.

>Only by dismantling the neocon political machine can the GOP evolve into an actual centrist party looking to benefit lower and middle income Americans. Hillary represents a return to the 1% controlled status quo.


Dude, Rio ended a few weeks ago, but I think you should aim for Tokyo in 2020. The mental gymnastics you're performing totally would've brought home gold.

But seriously, this analysis is pretty baseless, and you give no reason for me to believe anything you're saying with no actual evidence to support it.

>He has a past history of being antiracist and a gay rights advocate.


LMAO AGAIN: HE WAS SUED BY THE DOJ BECAUSE HIS BUSINESS PRACTICES WERE RACIST

in what fucking world does he have a history of supporting gay rights anon

://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidates_on_LGBTQ_rights

>Trump himself does not support nationwide marriage equality and has said he would "strongly consider" appointing judges to overturn it.


>On the issue of gay marriage, Donald Trump said during a November 2013 interview on MSNBC, "I think I’m evolving, and I think I’m a very fair person, but I have been for traditional marriage. I am for traditional marriage, I am for a marriage between a man and a woman.”


>In a March 2011 interview with The Des Moines Register, Trump said gay couples should not be allowed to marry or receive the same benefits as married heterosexual couples.


Like, you're lying through your teeth? It's pathetic and sad?

>So he took a page from the reality tv playbook and played the villan.


Yeah, and I don't want to vote for him. I don't really care that the GOP suffered because of his theatrics, but his policies suck, his ability to speak like a coherent human being sucks, there's plenty of analysis showing his financial plans suck and will result in another recession (Moody's), and I have no reason to vote for him.


Anyway, hope y'all learn some critical reading skills because this thread is real fucking sad! Bye!

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>>110581

dropped image

No. 110584

>>110582
They offered a rational response in my opinion. The American government fucked Yugoslavia, South America etc with Neoliberalism and now you have a man who is wishing to spend even more on the military and border controls which will almost certainly cause a recesssion.
You fuckwits need to understand SOCIALISM is not a bad word.

No. 110585

>>110584
I mean, I think both are arguing from a very biased point of view, one's admittedly making shit up, but the second one is kind of ignoring that high end business involves a lot of politics, and completely passing over some of the other points, as well as far as I can tell making things up themselves.

But both candidates are absolutely interested in increasing military spending, and Hillary is pretty closely linked to the military-industrial complex. She has much more motivation to push for that than Trump does.

No. 110588

>>110585
Not to mention that Hillary's hubby personally called for bombing of Yugoslavia, which not only wrecked their infrastructure but also the environment and cancer rates in the country skyrocketed thanks to the depleted uranium in the bombs used by NATO

No. 110589

>>110528
Countries in general might but the US sure isn't in a hurry to deport illegals. kek

No. 110696

>>110453
>He wants to unite all Americans, unlike Hillary who loves dividing Americans
Why is """uniting""" americans a good thing or even an important thing? Unless you're talking about nationalism and voicing your full support of it then this part of your post was really just a lot of words and very little substance.

No. 110715

>>110585
Both Trump and Rodham-Clinton are horrid candidates. Why is there no appetite for third party candidates like in other countries?

No. 110717


No. 110718

>>110715
The last time an independent actually got any steam was when Ross Perot ran back in the 90's. Tbh, Trump probably could've ran as an independent but went for the Republican seat instead. There are quite a few third party candidates but you would never know because of the lack of coverage. Also, some third parties aren't even listed on all the state ballots. But beyond that >>110717 is right, they all pretty much suck.

No. 110720

Oh right, I forgot this site is full of racists and homophobes. I hope you all never get the urge to bang your daughters/sons. I'm convinced that any woman who supports Trump, hates herself or is following her retarded gun-crazy husband's ideas. Either that, or you're all bots.

No. 110739

>>110720

How much is Clinton paying you for this

No. 110744

>>110720
And any male who supports Trumps is definitely a cis het white racist islamphobic homophobic transphobic patriarchy supporting bigoted puppy kicker, REEEEEEEE!!!

No. 110747

>>110237
I like how you pussys have a /b/ here and are afraid of 4chan. Incoming raid.

No. 110748

>>110747
Unrelated. Get out.

No. 110760


No. 110764

While I have mentally done this for a while, does anyone out there have an unbiased list of pros and cons about each candidate? Like shit that makes them good and shit that makes them bad in a convenient list? So much is muddled in opinions, it's hard to find straight facts. I am pretty sure I know who I am voting for, but would still love to hear pros and cons of each without a slant.

No. 110767

Ideally I'd want Bernie for president.

Second choice would have to be Hilary (even though I don't like her at all, obvious crook)

I wouldn't vote for trump because we don't agree on many issues, plus the fact of how he acts like a literal manner-less ape is very off putting to me.

No. 110768

>>110747

you do know that this board originated from another board that came from 4chan right? jesus.

No. 110769

>>110764
Hillary's not going to strip my/women's right to have an abortion and will continue to let people marry who they want to, regardless of gender. Also she won't separate families by deporting people left and right. She wants to make the path to citizenship easier to attain (my boyfriend goes through many loops and hurdles to renew his visa every year and remain in the U.S, and he's basically lived here all of his life, but he still has to wait 10+ years before he can get citizenship..). She also wants better gun control. I know she's far from perfect and she wasn't my choice candidate (yes I was a Bernie freak), but I'd rather have her than a toxic orange troll.

No. 110771

>>110767
Trump is literally a child. He believed the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in a different country, he acts on anger, he can't tell the difference between a Mexican and a Puerto Rican, he laughs at disabled people, he thinks it's gross that Hillary takes bathroom breaks (because he shits through his mouth, not in a toilet), he shits on muslims and hispanics, he couldn't even debate with the other republican nominees like an adult ("he started it", "my dick is soooo big", "ur wife is ugly"), he literally thinks he can make a country pay for a wall, he doesn't believe in climate change, and he's stated multiple times that he'd bang his daughter if she weren't his daughter (there's a difference between saying "my daughter looks beaitiful" and "oh she has a nice body and if she wasn't my daughter -creepy smile-"). And he's been in politics for like a year. And he's racist af (I'm sorry you're all born in the wrong decade, but here in 2016 being racist is so outdated). His short temper is dangerous and he is not fit for president.

No. 110772

>>110771

Yea, these are kind of my reasons. I wouldn't wan't someone who can't act like a normal adult representing my country (inb4 but hilary is satan, yeah she is horrible and I don't like her AT ALL but I don't think she's going to be acting like a freak anytime soon)

No. 110774

>>110747
ok. raids from ur imaginary friends dont count

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No. 111189

>>110772
I'm surprised Trump made it this far at all. Surely there are people who share his views that are actually decent politicians? Wasn't there somebody else that appealed to his voters? Somebody that could actually debate and discuss things without acting like a child?

No. 111191

Just filled out my absentee ballot, I selected Clinton and the Democratic candidate for my local district

No. 111194

>>111174
Last night's debate was abysmal. Hillary doesn't actually answer any questions and just redirects to make Trump look bad. Trump doesn't go on the offensive at all and ends up trying to defend himself the entire time. I got nothing out that debate.

No. 111196

>>111194
Trump did the same. He talked in circles and yelled.

>>111174
The moderator needed to be more assertive.

No. 111197

>>110771
>he believed the conspiracy theory that Obama was born in a different country
I love both this conspiracy and the one that says Ted Cruz is the Zodiac killer. The thought of people reading about them in the future cracks me up.

No. 111211

I support Trump for primarily these reasons:
1. Because he is an experienced businessman and I wholeheartedly agree with his plans for the economy, whereas Hillary knows nothing about economics.
2. Because unlike Obama/Hillary he doesn't want pointless aggression or cold war politics towards Russians who did nothing wrong and he doesn't want to continue funding terrorists in the middle east or fascists in Ukraine (which is by the way absolutely horrible and the most un-American thing I can think of).
3. Because he is an anti-establishment candidate who actually wants to change things for once in our country instead of continuing the same stale politics of the republicans and democrats who are virtually the same party, if he wasn't different then there wouldn't be so much fear and outrage from the establishment about him becoming president.

No. 111215

>>111211
>experienced businessman
you lost me right there. all you have to do is search 'trump business record'. plus, all his start-up capital was basically a birthday present from his dad. if anything, his financial 'success' is based on nepotism and the same kind of deception and corruption that he claims to be above because he's not a politician.
also he's prettyyy much in love with putin. the only reason he doesn't want 'pointless aggression' and 'cold war politics' towards Russia is because he views the state of Russian politics as something to aspire to.

>if he wasn't different then there wouldn't be so much fear and outrage from the establishment'

or maybe there's fear and outrage because 'the establishment' (i.e. people who have built whole careers out of understanding politics) are frankly horrified by the 'solutions' he's proposed so far and what their repercussions would be.

like hot damn I'm not a fan of Hillary, either, the Clintons are about as dirty as they come, but your reasons for supporting this guy seem real half-baked. Limberbutt 2016, I say.

No. 111233

>>111215
>half-baked
Sorry professor, I'm not gonna write a whole thesis about it if that's what you want, not supporting a government that funds extremists around the world is actually already enough reason for me to vote for Trump.

Also,
>start-up capital from daddy
How is that a bad thing? How can you start a business without capital?

>trump business record

Find me one billionaire who didn't shut down an unprofitable venture before they lost too much money from it. Every business contains risk, making billions out of a million is already a success if you ask me but of course anyone would have lost a few millions along the way to earn that much, that's just what happens in business, that's what the word PROFIT means.

No. 111237

>>111211
Hwwrrooong. All of these are just so wrong I don't even know where to begin.

No. 111240

Trump.

>Yeah, he's cavalier with money, but he's managed to fund his campaign. He's more successful than I am, money wise.

>I like his posturing when it comes to foreign policy. He'll work with other countries, but he won't be their bitch.
>He'll be tough on illegal immigrants.
>He'll be tough on refugees, or will disallow them completely.
>He's a meme candidate.
>I don't think Hillary is in it for anything other than power…and glory.
>If I had to guess, I'd say Trump is rather racist, but he's not calling for black genocide, like a lot of poltards do. He probably does sympathize with white supremacist organizations, and people therein.
>At one point he brought up auditing the Federal Reserve. If he really does that, that takes some fucking balls. If he tames it, he'll be historically significant.

But, you gotta ask whether he'll do anything he says he'll do. I'd like to think he'll keep his campaign promises, but I think we all know what happens with campaign promises. Well, he's still better than Hillary.

No. 111241

>>111194
>Trump doesn't go on the offensive at all and ends up trying to defend himself the entire time. I got nothing out that debate.
fucking this.

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>>111241
>>111194
It was 2v1 though.

No. 111254

>>111250
Why wouldn't she have a notebook? They're allowed to take notes. Teleprompter is a reach.

>>111240
Some of the things he said definitely won't happen because they're unfeasible, but anybody could have worked that out ages ago. Honestly I don't think he'll be anywhere near the antichrist that people would expect him to be in office because the more extreme shit he says will just never happen. I think it's likely he'll be more of a face than a mind and that actual politicans will end up doing the work if he becomes president. He doesn't really prep for much, so I think he'll rely on the people around him to fil in the gaps and that'll make him more moderate than he seems right now. He'll obviously still be pretty conservative but he won't be /pol tier.

No. 111255

>>111254
Paper notes, not notes fed to you through a third person. You're delusional to cover up such rigging. Funny that Trump didn't use it but only she did.

No. 111256

>>111255
But where's the actual evidence she was fed notes? The twitter account you linked to just shows a lighting change. It's hardly a cover up to want more than a grainy video as evidence. There were cameras everywhere, is there an actual clear shot?

No. 111260

>>111256
There is this thing called a privacy filter which was obviously used to cover it up. People can get it on their phones and laptops and etc. You find me one shot of Trump's "screen" going white, and I'll concede that she wasn't cheating.

No. 111262

>>111256
Its because the questions were stupid as well.

Man I just think about Obama's birthplace whenever I need to pay my taxes, or countries are getting blown up… Obama's birthplace man… So deep… affects my life so much…

I thought this was supposed to be about policies.

No. 111263

>>111262
I was supposed to respond to: >>111194
Sorry.

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>>111260
You said she was cheating, so that's your claim to try and prove.

>You find me one shot of Trump's "screen" going white, and I'll concede that she wasn't cheating.


The whiteness came from a painted strip on the podium. Trump's podium didn't have the white strip that Hilary's did. His was painted black.

No. 111265

>>111262
Plus they were both on board with smearing Obama so it was pointles anyway. They both wanted to push the narrative that he was some random foreign black man.

No. 111266

>>111262
Hers turned black after the video I linked. What are you even saying? Watch the video again. Your reasoning is laughably pathetic.
https://twitter.com/momandapplepie/status/781057051971624960

What kind of screen do you use thats a black screen but you can totally see whats in it? If his was actually black, please go find me some where the sides of it light up.

Are you saying they're treated differently and can pick what happens at their podium? That isn't allowed at the debate, Hillary was not allowed a stand that she requested. So, go find me that white screen, since Hillary has it. And don't use that pathetic excuse again, just find a screenshot.

Trump's a raging idiot as well, but man, your reasoning is just awful.

No. 111267

>>111266
Sorry, I'll take back my statement about picking what happens at the podium, but we all know the DNC was rigged to kick Bernie out, so its not unusual for things to happen in her favor.

No. 111268

>>111266
>Are you saying they're treated differently and can pick what happens at their podium?
No, I actually never said this. I don't know where you got this from.

I pointed out that the lighting affected how the podiums look and, because Hilary's was white and Trump's was black, the lighting affected them differently. I never said they chose their podiums, only said that's what I think caused the whiteness in the video you linked.

>So, go find me that white screen, since Hillary has it.

I wasn't the one that claimed she had a screen.

>just find a screenshot

I provided a screenshot to show you what I meant.

No. 111270

>>111268
>Hers turned black after the video I linked. What are you even saying? Watch the video again. Your reasoning is laughably pathetic.

Pls answer, honey. Why did hers turn black in the tweet? Why is Trump's 100% always black?

I'm asking you for proof on YOUR claim.

>If his was actually black, please go find me some where the sides of it light up.


Even if it is black, the sides should light up. Don't see that with your screenshot.

Again, your justification is pathetic.

No. 111272

>>111268
>I wasn't the one that claimed she had a screen.

You claimed both of them had one to take notes. But Trump's one is black??

Man I wish I could read through a black screen, SO efficient! So even if it was black… means its still rigged.

If Clinton's one turned black at the end of the debate, perhaps Trump's one was never on? Makes ya think…

No. 111273

>>111270
You haven't even proven your first claim yet, why should I spend my time finding shit I never even claimed (the black strip on Trump's podium lighting up) or a personal interpretation (me thinking the change is due to lighting whereas you think it's a screen)?

I already provided a clear picture of both their podiums, which I used to back up all the claims I made and show you why I had interpreted your video the way I did.

You're obviously not going to change your mind that Hilary had a teleprompter and I'm not going to say she had one unless there's evidence of it, so we're just arguing in circles.

>>111272
I didn't. I agreed Hilary had notes, I never said screen. My exact words were
>Why wouldn't she have a notebook? They're allowed to take notes. Teleprompter is a reach.
I haven't claimed that either of them had a screen, I'm not sure where you're getting that from?

No. 111274

>>111273
You can clearly see the Lighting in her podium back to black without the actual lighting on the stage changing though, That lighting sure is intense and almost magical how it can pick and choose which spots to light out.

>so we're just arguing in circles.

Yeah, lets drop it.

No. 111328

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>>110584
>You fuckwits need to understand SOCIALISM is not a bad word.
It ought to be.

No. 111329

>>110240
You do realize that Hillary has been war hawkish with Putin, and Trump has been all buddy buddy with him? Just look at the debate blaming the DNC hacks on Russia, and talking about the importance of cyber warfare.

>>110527
The country is already bankrupt, it has been for some time. Stop blaming these things on Trump.

>>110769
>Also she won't separate families by deporting people left and right
The families wont be separated. We'll deport them all together.

>>110584
> which will almost certainly cause a recesssion.
You do realize the economy is cyclic, and we're about due for another a recession absent the federal reserve continuing to devalue the dollar even more than they already have regardless of who takes power?

No. 111332

Meanwhile, back to the intent of the thread (stop arguing anons; OP specifically asked for us to state our position and why – and leave out the arguing):

I fucking despise them both but am voting for Hillary. She is the lesser of evils. She will likely be more of the same, but Trump is scary. He is a classic narcissist, hotheaded and arrogant; he is a racist pig and he is a threat not only to our nation but the WORLD. I wouldn't want him anywhere near our nuke codes.

No. 111334

>>111332
Are you okay with Hillary who defended a pedo during her time as a lawyer, who raped a 12 year old girl and basically [Hillary] said the girl fantasised about older men, as in she was asking for it?

The same Hillary who called Bill's rape victims "trash"?

Its okay if you're a sensitive little snowflake, but you're funny to think leaders of a country are sensitive tumblrinas.

By the way, he did absolutely fine with Nieto, pres of Mexico. So yeah, unfortunately they're not the tumblrinas you want them to be.

No. 111338

>>111332
>I wouldn't want him anywhere near our nuke codes.
Yeah….I don't think that's how that works.

No. 111339

>>111338
Seriously, it's how it works. Terrifying.
"…the President has a card, commonly called the "biscuit," with the nuclear launch codes on it. He also has a briefcase, nicknamed the "football," carried by a military aide, with the equipment and the information needed to launch a nuclear strike.
"You have to be ready anytime for any moment," said Pete Metzger, who for three years was one of the five alternating officers who carried the nuclear launch suitcase during Ronald Reagan's presidency. "Mind you, it has to happen quickly, because the time on a missile is very fast," saying it could take as little as five to six minutes for a nuclear warhead to hit Washington, D.C. or New York City.
The aide with the satchel is required to be close to the president at all times – whether at the White House, in a motorcade, aboard Air Force One or on a trip overseas. The aide rides in the same elevator, stays on the same hotel floor, and is protected by the same Secret Service agents. There is also a football for the vice president in case the president is incapacitated.
The Presidential Emergency Satchel, as it is formally called, contains four things, according to former White House Military Office Director Bill Gulley's book "Breaking Cover."
There is a black book listing a menu of strike options; a list of secure bunkers where the president can be sheltered; instructions for using the Emergency Broadcast System; and a 3-by-5-inch card with authentication codes for the president to confirm his identity.
"It contains the equipment and the decision-making papers that the president would need to make a very quick decision" and to relay instructions to the National Military Command Center to launch a strike."
"The president has supreme authority to decide whether to use America's nuclear weapons. Period. Full stop."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/06/politics/nuclear-football-president-button/

No. 111340

>>111332
What did Trump say or do that was racist? I'm not defending him, but this is something that comes up constantly about him and no one ever seems to be able to answer why.

No. 111348

>>111340
he's not racist but most of the people who support him are. his image appeals to that demographic as well.

No. 111349

>>111334
>le tumblrinas XD
>le little snowflake XDDD

This is why i dont want trump the win, because of the alt right, tumblr-obsessed braindead retards who like him
these people getting their way will be the death of the country more than trump will ever do by his own

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>>110237
my whole facebook is just people sharing buzzfeed tier articles bashing trump and praising clinton, all just to appear moral and politically invested

I don't even live in the US

No. 111372

>>111338
Hillz voted FOR Iraq war. Trump wasn't in any power position in politics at the time so who cares what he thought(he wasn't for it). Has he threatened Russia? Hillary also recently said we would use military power for CYBER attacks, directing it at Russia. Like, really? Get a better server, Hillz. The same Hillary who ordered death of Gaddafi? The one who said on video: “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m president, we will attack Iran. In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."?

But omg raycest wurds hurt mah fee feezzz!!!
Nitpicking. Trump is far from perfect, but he has a cleaner slate than Hillary. Maybe your parents would know about the time with Bill.

>>111349
Here we go, the real reason: your own internet ego. You don't give a damn about the trillions of debt. I can safely assume you live with mummy and daddy, heh.

No. 111377

>>111372
No, it's because of fucking idiots like you
You're obsessed with race, you're obsessed with tumblr and far left people. You talk like a fucking mentally ill retard who thinks anyone who disagrees with you is just being "over sensitive"
Plus as always, your kind always resorts to personal attacks because you're fucked in the head

No. 111379

>>111377
Anyway, I dont want a president to win who has people supporting him like that. That will effect the political and social state of America the most and it has nothing to do with my "internet ego". Your kind is insufferable and has the same condescending nature and haughtiness as any far left nut but the same viciousness and aggressive attitude any far right winger has as well.
In short you are an abomination and just awful. I never want to see you gain power in my country.

No. 111382

>>111377
…My post literally has nothing about race though, what are you talking about?

Did you just nitpick my post again like I said? I said other things you know.

>same condescending nature and haughtiness as any far left nut but the same viciousness and aggressive attitude any far right winger has as well.

Maybe you should take some iron tablets.

>In short you are an abomination and just awful.

>You talk like a fucking mentally ill retard
>Your kind is insufferable
>fucking idiots like you
>your kind always resorts to personal attacks because you're fucked in the head
??????????????????????????????

Nice projection! See what I mean about the sensitivity?

No. 111383

>>111382
>>111379
>>111377
I'll also take that as admission you live with mummy and daddy, which is fine, but also why you put things like PCness in higher priority.

No. 111384

I'll probably vote for Hillary Clinton. I do think that people are being way more critical of her than if some man had her exact same history and credentials. I do think she should really just come clean about the email server, though. I'm more of a moderate/independent so I don't care about the progressive stuff Bernie Sanders supporters are a bloo blooing to Clinton about. I like that she seems cold and unsmiling, and doesn't do the emotional plea quite right. As an aloof lady, it speaks to me a bit. Clinton did some shitty/shady shit in her career, but I've accepted that as some of the baggage that comes along with being a career politician. You will never get a candidate with a perfect record.

If anything it's mostly because Trump just seems super unqualified. Like he's probably never even been the head of a PTA board. And also that he conflates a lot of things and barely speaks to factual evidence. It just doesn't look that good for him. I could support an under/unqualified candidate if they had a history of some kind of community service, or seemed particularly earnest, but Trump just seems corporate business, and as the reporting goes, not even super good at business either.

>>111340
The closest thing I can think of is that he called Mexican (immigrants) rapists and murders I think and also called that Colombian (?) Miss Universe winner "Miss Housekeeping".

>>111382
Not that anon, but eventually you see some of the same kinds of argumentation tactics between far-leftists and far-rightists (on the internet). At least, I have. People can be more alike than they'd like to admit sometimes.

No. 111386


No. 111396

>>111384
Absolutely. But we are voting for a person, not their crowd. Taking the crowd into account is just voting for your own ego.

I suggest watching Clinton Cash on youtube. The best documentary shitting on Trump you'll get is Trumped(?).

No. 111397

>>111396
It was "You've Been Trumped", sorry.

No. 111401

>>111382
You said this:
>But omg raycest wurds hurt mah fee feezzz!!!


You sound CRAZY.
You keep mentioning "PC" and that I live with "mummy and daddy" what the fuck?

Also we don't vote for a person, we vote for their policies. Dumbass.

No. 111402

>>111383
I don't get why because I disagree with you - you assume that I'm a oversensitive liberal who obsesses over politically correct things and browse tumblr
this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature a lot of you trump supporters have.

It's like you have obsessive circle-jerks in your head about who's liberal or not and expect everyone to fit a certain archetype. Hell you do it on the internet so i'd expect your mental state not to look so good either.

Anyway you just prove my point. Your way of talking and thinking is abnormal and the fact that Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of all

No. 111403

>>111401
That was a small portion of my post. Again, nitpicking. In case you couldn't tell it was said to mock you. Whoopsies, so sorry.

You don't deny it soo… The way people live affects what they feel about certain things. I'm not looking down on it, it just gives an idea as to why you think certain things are important.

Yes, a person and their policies. A lot of people itt are saying Trump is too hot headed to be near a nuclear button, so the person. That is completely irrelevant to policies. But I don't see you throwing a fit at them. So….???????

>>111402
But you've showed me that you are.

>this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature a lot of you trump supporters have.

>>this is exactly what I'm talking about, this weird, bizarre, aggressive nature
>bizarre, aggressive nature
???????

Projection again??

>Your way of talking and thinking is abnormal and the fact that Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of all

>Trump attracts so many off people like you is disturbing most of all

Projection again???

No. 111404

>>111402
Agree in full.

No. 111405

>>111403
More stupid repetitive words like "projection"
Why does it always have to be projection with you people? Are you projecting because you're calling me oversensitive? Fucking dumb words, man.
I don't really care for Trump and Hillary as people , i only look at their policies and their image because that is what matters when you elect a leader of a country. A leader represents a country worldwide and this effects important things like foreign policy. First, I want us to crush all the islamists and withdraw from the Middle East as soon as possible. Trump will most likely do that, but then he says a lot of iffy shit and a lot of his supporters are even more iffy and shady than he is. And besides, the president won't have as much power as we're led to believe so fuck it.

No. 111406

>>111405
Meaning they won't have power in regards to the clusterfuck of the whole checks and balance and government structure thing. Most official people, left wing or right wing are not with Trump's views, and ultimately Trump is a businessman in the end.

No. 111407

>>111402
Lmfao I said 'PoC' once and someone on here got triggered and called me a sjw.

I know lolcow is 90% white supremacy, but I'm pretty sure almost all of you support LGBT+ people. If you vote for Trump then have fun explaining to your gay friends why you voted for someone who supports annulling marriage equality.

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>>111407
>I know lolcow is 90% white supremacy
>LGBT+
>gay friends
just… go away please

No. 111411

>>111407
yeah that's their problems. i just despise radical islam the most

No. 111417

>>111405
>>111407
I think you're a troll but here's my response: Trump was for gay rights before being for gay rights was cool: http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/9/28/read-donald-trumps-advocate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans

Unlike a certain someone who flip flops and is only for it now that its become hip and trendy to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3huRVrckY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkK2_6H9MM

>>111411
And Hillary wants to import thousands of them to America.

No. 111418

>>111417
We aren't the same person and I am not a troll also.

I am aware of what Hillary wants to do and what Trump wants to do. Note the want. I was on Trump's side until recently.

No. 111426

>>111417
His Vice President is a pro-life homophobe. Not that he can do a lot, but his views are damaging and dangerous.

No. 111455

There is nothing wrong with opposing gay marriage. It's a manufactured issue to begin with anyway that nobody even thought of 10-15 years ago.

It became a "cause" because the media spun it that way. Not organically. Faggots back in the 1980s actually explicitly opposed marriage as a bourgeois institution, not that anyone remembers that.

No. 111489

>>111426
Views are nothing without action, you've said it yourself. If people like you are smart enough to see that its bad, why can't other people?

I have to wonder if she's pro life to help her husband's raping not have a 18+ year life, tbh.

No. 111563

How did you all feel about Hillary calling Bernie supporters basement dwellers in their parents house? I wonder what she calls her own supporters!

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Trump revealed as a misogynist (gee, what a big surprise!) and Hillary revealed as a big Wall Street shill.

I wonder how many October surprises await us this fall? It's like a gutter mud-wrestling match with sewage on everyone.

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>>112031
>mfw trump stumped himself

No. 112084

>tfw it's almost certain Hillary will win
>tfw she'll almost certainly ramp up the proxy war against Russia and try to topple Assad, creating even more chaos

Fug. And we're right on the frontlines of this shit Obongo and her created in Europe.

No. 112089

>>112084
Pretty much this. If trump doesn't get elected (and he won't, he's a clown) it's ww3

No. 112142

I can't wait for the end of the world.

No. 112164

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lamo, "acid-wash" is a infosec term for purging data so it becomes 100% unrecoverable.
Is someone at NBC trying to throw Hillary under the bus?

No. 112165

>>112164
But bleach is a base, not an acid.

No. 112183

>>112031
Are you a pussy or something? Haha.

No. 112190

It's Weird how much of the whole

>I'm anti PC ;) I say what I think haha

>Omg if you say someone is racist/sexist you're an sjw!

Sort of "anti SJW" circle jerk is so prevalent in Chan boards.

I would have understood this maybe in mostly male chans, but it's also weird seeing this sort of outlook here as well.

Seems strange for women to be totally cool and accept this mindset (who I would think have experienced some sort of unequal treatment first hand) . I think It's the same people who think Milo Yiannopoulos is "an amazing troll xD" when in fact all he does is easy lowbrow shit stirring (but I guess it's Le edgy).

I do want to add that I don't think every single trump supporter in this board or chans is an edgy right winger, but what I'm trying to say is that I am surprised at how many of these there are(edgy xD right wingers).

I don't think Hilary is a good person, she's a crooked career politician (aren't they all? sigh) but I don't feel like there is any other choice but her at this point.

I'd love to vote for someone else if I could, I don't care about voting democrat or republican as long as the candidate seems fit to me. This election sucks man.

No. 112202

>>112190
I just think it stems from black/white thinking or an immature mindset. Just like how sjws call you a racist if you don't immediately kiss the ass of every single black person's opinions, many channers immediately call you a sjw if you don't agree with their extreme opinions. Or get mad if you call their opinions extreme - ""muh logic and reason""

No. 112233

>>112190
I wonder if any edgy xD right wingers in this thread have a different view on Trump now. It doesn't make sense for women to support a pig like him.

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>>110237
pic related to all the trump supporters out there


not even shitposting

No. 112257

>>112237
The thing is with Trump supporters is that they WANT uncertain and unabashed change. They hate how everything is going right now and even if Clinton turns the wheel in a slightly more conservative angle. So much so, that they are willing to look over other aspects of the Trump campaign that non-Trump supporters find absolutely unacceptable.

At this point, it's unwise to just assume that these people are merely ignorant, or blind to the truth. They support Trump because that's exactly what they want.

Also lol at all the Dems who want Trump to step out of the race. If that happened then Pence would get the presidency, probs no contest.

No. 112258

>>112257
>they WANT uncertain and unabashed change

That's certainly the case for me, though I'm not an American. I'm hoping that if he wins it'll spark a cultural shift in the US and across the rest of the West. Hyper PC lunacy needs to die.

No. 112259

>>112258
I just want him to win because Hillary's hubby is an awful human being.

No. 112262

>>112259

>because Hillary's hubby is an awful human being

>because I don't like her husband I will not vote for her
>her husband is the deciding factor

ok.jpg

robot go

No. 112268

>>112237
>conservative
>hawkish

Our terminology is so screwed up that words don't actually have real meanings anymore. Orwell once wrote "the word fascist now has no meaning, except 'that which is not desirable'", I think that's relevant here.

Consider what you quoted from. You're/they're saying that bombing other countries until everyone is permitted to vote is a conservative (with a small "c") policy point.

It's not. It's liberal internationalism. In this context it's neo-liberalism, or rather "neo conservatism", but even then the people who systematized the ideology were in no small number ex-Trotskyists.

It simply isn't a conservative position to want to bomb and kill whenever there's a threat to universal suffrage. The very idea of universal suffrage is anathema to any principled conservative position to begin with. Even if you're talking about Burkean conservatism it's anathema to it, let alone more perennial definitions.

>>112190
PC doesn't just refer to being cordial and civil, and not risking potential offense (although that's a big part of why it's a problem - consider that virtually any and all discussions these days descend into arduously boring, byzantine discussions about whether or not someone or something is "racist"), it more accurately describes a way of thinking about the world. It pre-supposes things like blank slate models of human behavioral development (except in the case of homosexuality, which is a singular aberration along with transgenderism), it believes staunchly in egalitarianism not just as an article of faith, but as a default position (liberals genuinely cannot comprehend, and I don't mean this in a pejorative way, the notion of believing in innate hierarchies or differences). It believes in nominalism - that is for most purposes as applied here - if you can find some individual example of an discrepancy from a generally alleged trend, then that trend doesn't exist ("heh, let me tell you about my 4.0 GPA black friend. Bigot.") and so on.

It's a stupid way of describing things, but PC is really better described as egalitarianism/liberalism.

I also disagree with the use of the term "SJW", despite being far-right in most of my policy positions. I think it's a bullshit term, and the reason you see it used so much is because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftists from embarrassing the rest of them (in other words it is a face-saving term).

From my point of view though, using the term de-politicizes their pathology and turns them into "just another group of kooks". They should be called what they actually are, which is leftists/liberals.

>>112233
I'm not going to defend those comments, but I think it's really important to distill policy positions from rhetoric. Trump's rhetoric is incendiary and often stupid, but his actual policy positions: No offer of amnesty, tightening the entire immigration system from student visas to naturalization rules, introducing like-for-like tariffs on Chinese goods in key areas (at the very least there needs to be a shift back towards US-made steel, if the US is going to re-industrialize) and so on are things I actually support and agree with.

No. 112302

Not an American so I'm mostly concerned about Trump's and Clinton's foreign policy. And based on how he presents himself, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump starts the 3rd World War if someone insults his ridiculous hairdo. Clinton, not so much.


Ok, I was exaggerating. But Trump is butt-buddies with Putin (or maybe just his lapdog), I'm Finnish and since Finland is uncomfortably close to Russia, I'd rather hope 'Muricans choose a president who is for strong NATO presence in Europe.


There's a silver lining, tho. If Trump wins, I'm probably going to enjoy seeing SJWs' extreme bitchfits.

No. 112312

>>112302

>Trump starts the 3rd World War if someone insults his ridiculous hairdo. Clinton, not so much.


Clinton is an absolute war hawk. She was a major part in ruining Syria and Libya causing the whole "refugee" crisis. She has been quoted wanting to start a war with Russia over over the hacked DNC emails and wants drone strikes on people that have leaked emails.

>Trump is butt-buddies with Putin


Yeah Putin and Trump are just best friends when Trump doesn't even have a single property in a country as large as Russia. I tell you he has been a super secret KGB/FSB agent his entire life.

No. 112318

>>112258
Unfortunately for you and many people whose sole interaction is online (or unfortunately for regular people??), hyper PC lunacy is really still (more or less) a minority of people in the US. Otherwise Bernie Sanders would have won the Dem ticket/Trump would have never even made it. You do have to remember that a lot of the over the top sjw liberals are more often than not much younger than the voting age/will actually never make it to voting booths/much louder than they actually are.

Also unfortunately for you, as far as I can tell you're still a minority in the West outside of the US and if Trump gets elected it might actually spark non-US nations to double down on non-Trump rhetoric. Though it would depend on the percentage spread of ideologies outside of the US (i.e., Canada just elected a Liberal Party PM so they probably will have a kneejerk opposite reaction to a Trump presidency).

>>112268
>I also disagree with the use of the term "SJW", despite being far-right in most of my policy positions. I think it's a bullshit term, and the reason you see it used so much is because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftists from embarrassing the rest of them (in other words it is a face-saving term).
I see where you're coming from, but more often than not (it seems) it is used by (far) rightists as a pejorative to describe far leftists. I think the issue lies in that prior to the presidential elections, SJW was used to describe the idea that social issues were first and foremost. Since the elections, and the particular divisiveness of these elections, SJW as a term became politicized, with liberals being the stronger majority of people who spout SJW themes (I don't know about you, but I have definitely come across self proclaimed Republicans who spouted SJW themes).

>because a lot of white leftists want to divorce what they see as an uncomfortably loud, aggressive group of leftists

For what it's worth, me and many people around me (not white) view SJW-ism as a kind of off the deep end liberalism perpetuated by white guilt and white people who think they know but are just trying way too hard. (As you can see perception differs based on experience and exposure. Obviously I see all sorts of minority voices being crazy with this shit online and in tumblr screencaps but for my personal irl reality it's just white people who say this shit).

>I'm not going to defend those comments, but I think it's really important to distill policy positions from rhetoric.

I agree. It is just unfortunate for your case that Trump tends to rely on rhetoric over policy.

No. 112328

>>112312
I didn't realize he had to own property there to be butt buddies with Putin, but okay.

No. 112332

>>112302
Trump is not starting it, it will 100% be a war with Russia if Clinton gets elected. I will say however there is a chance of war breaking out, but that will be funded by the elite to try and take down Trump as he opposes their corruption. The reason why 100% war will break out if Clinton gets elected is because Russia is in a similar position as Trump: rejecting the elite and even banning one of the toppest ones. But that is still not Trump warmongering.

>>112328
Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer. No one wants to go to war with Russia, especially considering Hillary helped power them up with 30% of American uranium(material to make nuclear weapons)

I know you're on lolcow and real petty, but don't treat this the same as your internet drama, lmao.

No. 112333

>>112262
More interns to rape, cool. Thanks for being a rape enabler. Hope you seriously did not post in the Brock Turner thread at the very least if that is your stance.

No. 112346

>>112332
lmao this projection, I don't even know who the fuck any of those lolcows are. I don't even post on boards outside of /b/ and /g/.

>Keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer.

Why doesn't putin keep hillary close then? How did you even come up with this? Do you have any evidence this is what trump's doing, or is this just a pet theory of yours?

No. 112347

>>112332
>it will 100% be a war with Russia if Clinton gets elected
How much are you willing to bet on that?

No. 112353

>>112346
Why are you telling me your lolcow history for? Getting defensive?

Because Hillary is a Shill of the person Russia banned.

Are you serious? There are claims all over that Trump is getting buddy buddy with Russia, which has been spun badly but its not bad at all.

>>112347
$500.

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>>112353
>I know you're on lolcow and real petty, but don't treat this the same as your internet drama, lmao.
>but I don't even follow internet drama
>Why are you telling me your lolcow history for? Getting defensive?
Do you have short term memory loss, or is this just damage control?

No. 112786

>>112262
Why is everyone so retarded about this issue. Even those that oppose them don't make this obvious statement, so allow me to put things simply for you:


"She is guilty by association."


Were she a truly the strong woman she claims she is she would have dumped his ass years ago and let him rot in prison. But no, instead she threatens his victims, enables him, and continues to stand closely by Bill even when he was confirmed guilty on multiple accounts. Why you may ask? Well because she's corrupt politician and shameless opportunist who didn't want to cut her only tie to any sort of relevancy in the political world. Mind you that's putting things lightly, as she her trues reasons for staying with Bill are probably much worse than one can imagine.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd4wXAUFAow

The media currently claims Hillary has 95% chance to win the the presidency. Do you think 95% is a good prediction?

No. 113300

>>113297
>Feel when she declares a no-fly zone over Syria and the SHTF

Do you American libs seriously believe this woman is anything more than a typical neo-liberal globalist warmonger?

Remember when you thought Obama was going to be some sort of savior because he was black?

LOL.

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>>113300
You are delusional.

Everyone knows Trump is a buffoon that is unfit for the presidency and Hillary is a saint that never lies or engage in hypocrisy.

>http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/wikileaks-clinton-foundation-paid-women-less-men/

No. 113317

>>113300
Yeah, her saying that scared the shit out of me. She's begging for a war with Russia at this point. She has her tin-foil hat on tight thinking Russia is "hacking everything".
I also nervously chuckled when she told everyone America's response time for a nuclear launch.
Crazy bitch.

>>112347
500$ as well

No. 113446

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Honestly it's gotta be Hillary. I was for her even during the primaries because I was convinced Bernie couldn't win. Looking back, I kind of regret that because if someone like Bernie ever could've won, it'd be during this election. But oh well, that's in the past now. I didn't even vote.

The thing is, Hillary supporters at this point need to accept that she's kinda corrupt, a classic politician & very calculating. I used to think I wanted someone like this in the office because they'd have the connections necessary to get things done since the system is corrupt. Now that I've grown up a bit, I realize why this is ridiculous thinking.

I was tempted, briefly, to consider Trump as a protest vote. But that accomplishes nothing. It's quite clear he would just delegate all of his tasks to the people he appoints, like Mike Pence, and that scares the shit out of me. And, just like how Hillary supporters just accept her faults, any Trump supporter at this point in time does not give a shit that he is a liar, womanizer, and a crazy person. This excites them. It's "different," and this is why his scandals aren't having as much of an effect as they would with another politician.

So we are "stuck" with Hillary. But that's not so bad. I'm excited for a first female president, and I'm unsure that she will actually last two terms. I have a feeling she might not. And since I've accepted her faults, Wikileaks hasn't shown me anything new. They keep claiming a bombshell but I mean, come on. Back room dealings? Corruption? You'd have to be naive to not have suspected this already. And not just with her, but with any politician.

PS this is my first time posting here :) This community was like…fucking made for me lol. I wish I knew you all IRL, I'm sure we'd be great friends.

No. 113455

>>113446
You're fucking stupid.

No. 113458

>>111426
How is pro life damaging you fucking baby killing slut

No. 113460

seeing all this disgusting kids acting violent and protesting at trump rallies made up my mind. Blocking roads and shit and and angry trannies. MAGA.

No. 113461

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>>113458
Terrible bait.

No. 113465

>>113461
How is it bait? Killing babies because you fuvked around and got pregnant is fucked up.

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>>113455

Thanks for responding to my long, thought out post with a retarded one liner about how 'stupid" I am for wanting the lesser of two evils. Have fun when your candidate loses.

No. 113483

>>113446
You're completely right, anon. I was a Bernie supporter at the start, even though I didn't think he had a real chance. Hillary really is America's only option right now. I never, ever would've wanted her to be our first lady president, but oh well. I'm over it, I guess. She's "in" with the electoral college and such also, so she's definitely going to beat Trump, even if he wins the popular vote.

No. 113486

>>113465
>Nobody even brings up the fact Tim Kaine is big on pro-life until his selection by Clinton.
Now the media pretends Kaine was pro-choice all along, and he waffles around and make excuses when asked about it.

No. 113489

>>113465
Second time around it's still shitty bait anon.
Did you really expect a bunch of people to chime in and start saying 'yeah! Abortion is evil let those babies get abused in state and foster care instead. We love kids so they should suffer'

No. 113497

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>>113483
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who feels this way. And it seems like a lot of people voted for Bernie in the primaries, whether or not they wanted him to win, in order to push Clinton further to the left. And it worked!

>>113489
Just some lunatic, right-wing hater. Probably the same person who was baiting me earlier. Sorry, but just because something has the potential for life does not make it a person. Any college graduate can tell you that they learn this argument in an entry level philosophy class.

No. 113498

>>113497
Anon don't you ever apologise for being right.

No. 113531

>>113497
they still abort fully formed babies. Whatever helps you sleep at night slut.

No. 113533

>>113489
so should we kill all the kids in foster care right now so they dont suffer. How about will kill all old people as well. And homeless. Ok.

No. 113535

>>113533
>>113497
>just because something has the potential for life does not make it a person

No. 113562

What makes Hillary the better of two evils?

Forget about the rhetoric of both candidates for a minute. Hillary was a defense lawyer after all (no scummier profession, take it from someone with a law degree). Instead look at the balance sheet of their policies.

Hillary is on record saying she's more likely to have an aggressive foreign policy towards Russia specifically. I think for most rational people this is a mark down.

She's also on record as saying Syria needs a no-fly zone, which is as good as declaring war on the Syrian government (denying it access to its own airspace), so she seems to be… entirely ok with repeating the exact same mistakes she made as Sec. of State and Obama made in Libya, and Bush made in Iraq in toppling authoritarian but secular regimes and replacing them with durka ones (ah, but "moderate" durka ones). I also think for most rational people this is also a mark down.

She's in favor of giving some 11,000,000-20,000,000 people who entered the country illegally and continue to stay illegally a path to citizenship, which a) is an admission of defeat on America's abilities to control any sort of border inflow whatsoever, b) following Reagan's amnesty, sets another terrible precedent that basically says "come here illegally and just stay a while, you will, eventually, get citizenship" and c) basically guarantees the Dems a near permanent majority of voters, turning America into a de-facto one party state (ironically similar to Russia and Turkey).

Points in her favor policy wise:

- She supports universal healthcare.
- She supports some women's issues policies, primarily contraception access and so on, which I actually agree with the DNC on - and which I feel hamstrings the GOP's ability to engage with younger white female voters.

No. 113564

>>113497
>Abortion is a morally solved isse
>Every graduate knows this from entry level philosophy

God you must be hard work to be around

No. 113582

>>110319
>Lower taxes and smaller government resonates with a lot of people I know personally, but many are pretty put off by all the fundamentalist garbage that comes along with it to appeal to their voterbase

Exactly, especially considering the fact that the evangelicals are anything but "small government" with how much they would love for the govt control multiple unnecessary aspects of people's lives. (Think, opposition to Gay people having equal legal treatment and not understand the separation of church and state in general)

>>111377
Do you… do you not see the irony of saying people are fucked in the head as an argument after whining about too many personal attacks?

>>112268
>It's a stupid way of describing things, but PC is really better described as egalitarianism/liberalism.

What about all the times what people usually consider the PC crowd/SJWs actively bash on people calling themselves egalitarians? That's a common thing I've noticed from tumblr posts that I've seen

>>113531
I'm fairly certain there are restrictions against that kind of thing my friend.

No. 113585

>>113533
Lol do you also think miscarriages count as abortion? Go back to Facebook.

No. 113589

>>113585
Hate to be THAT guy, but miscarriages can be called spontaneous abortions in some places.

No. 113591

>>113531
Most abortions are early, before the baby is fully formed. Fully formed babies are usually aborted for medical reasons. Laws in most places generally prohibit the abortion of fully formed, viable fetuses unless there's a medical reason.

And honestly? I would think "sluts" would just pop the few pills in the first few weeks of pregnancy instead of waiting for a surgical abortion later on, which is more difficult, time-consuming and expensive. I don't think people hang around that long when they realise they don't want a kid. Late term abortions unfortunately happen a lot to women who wanted to carry their baby to term and have a child, but couldn't reasonably do so due to medical circumstance.

No. 113592

>>113446
>They can't lick our dick
this is the type of political tagline we need more of

No. 113597

>>113591
I hate when people call women who have abortions "sluts". Accidents happen. Condoms break and birth control fails. Women get raped by a piece of shit and get pregnant. People in monogamous relationships get pregnant because, like I said, protection can fail. I'd rather a woman have an abortion if she knows she can't take proper care of another life rather than have the baby and neglect it/dump it in some foster home. It's a very responsible choice.

And for fuck's sake, god forbid a woman has sex with multiple people because she likes sex. As long as she takes care of her health, it's nobody's fucking business.

Thank you for clearing up the "Women kill fully formed babies!!!!11" myth. Hopefully people will understand now.

sage for OT. Trump is a piece of shit.

No. 113600

>>113531
Only for extreme medical circumstances. Late term abortions aren't handed out gratuitously.

>>113533
Your trolling isn't getting any better rightwing-chan. Those people exist and thus deserve the same human rights as anyone else. A 5 week old fetus isn't the same thing as a grown-ass homeless person or a little girl getting fucked with crochet hooks because mum kept the kid she didn't want.

Pick a point that is at least vaguely sensible if you must sit there forcing outdated Christian myths at me ok?

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>>113498
Anon, people like you on here are why I said in my post above that I think I'd get along with most people in this community!

>>113531
Oh, you mean infanticide? I wasn't aware that was legal in the US.

>>113535
I was hesitant to write that set first because I was worried I'd get flamed to death, but then I was like lol it's a fucking anonymous message board. But I'm glad it resonated with some people. Like, wouldn't it be great that my potential for earning a million dollars meant I was a millionaire?

>>113562
A rare post on here that is incredibly well thought out, reasoned and factual. Everything you mentioned is exactly why I still struggle to support her. Unfortunately I think a conflict with Russia might be unavoidable at this point, but you're right, Hillary is a hawk yo.

>>113564
I know you're trying to be a dick but that actually made me lol.

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>>113592
I know, right, I love it. I honestly don't know how real it is, like if the buttons were officially made by the campaign or not, but I love it. How do ya like this one?

Also agree with everything people are saying here about late term abortions. It's usually for medical reasons.

I'm kinda tempted to just keep using Richard Nixon photos in every thread until I run out. Lol

No. 113708

>>113597
And people can still call them sluts because that's what they are and are viewed as. Dont wanna be called a slut? Don't be slut. Otherwise you should take it like strong independent woman sluts claim to be. Instead of whining about it because people look down on fucking the entire neighborhood with no emotion and mentally damaging yourself.>>113597

No. 113709

>>113600
Im not a christian or right wing you disgusting bitch. How can you talk about a child in that way?

No. 113711

>>113615
>tfw you kinda want these badges even though you're not even American

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>>113708
>>113709
Make a new thread to discuss this or go to one of the existing abortion threads.

No. 113800

>>113562

> Hillary was a defense lawyer after all (no scummier profession, take it from someone with a law degree).


Eat shit, you TTT nerd.

No. 113811

>>113800
>TTT

I'm not American, autoadmit NOWAG faggot. The university I did my LLB at was a top 30 globally ranked one.

And it's a fact. Everyone hates defense lawyers. It's not "just a job", they really do believe they're some pillar of civilization. It's hilarious how delusional they are. As if lawyers do productive work like engineers do, smh fam.

No. 114031

>>113711
Haha American or not, they're awesome. I don't blame ya.

But hey, since you're not American I am curious. You don't have to say where you're from, but what do you guys think of the election over there? Who do you think will win? Curious :)

No. 114032

>>114031
I'm not American, and Trump.

HRC is too trigger happy on the whole war thing. She's a known quantity that has and will push for disastrous liberal internationalism.

No. 114205


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>>114032
Assholes like Putin only understand violence. We have a responsibility to the world to deal with assholes dictators like him.

>Besides, our nukes can wipe out all of Russia while we lose merely a dozen cities…

No. 114366

>>114032
You want him to win or think he will win? What you said about HRC may be true, but I still think she will win. I just don't see Trump carrying enough states. Who knows though, maybe he will somehow win the popular vote. But hey, don't forgot the election is ~rigged~. I can't wait to hear his concession speech…if he even gives one.

>>114363
Ummm holy shit that picture isn't real right? Like she didn't tweet that or anything, someone else made that right?!

No. 114378

>>110265
This, basically.

No. 114388

>>114366
>Ummm holy shit that picture isn't real right?
Why, what's wrong with it?
Nothing wrong with women being in the armed services.

No. 114390

>>114363
>Putin's bigotry

I was speaking with a friend about this the other night. Remember how there were calls to boycott the Sochi Olympics in 2013 because of the Duma passing a piece of legislation about teaching homosexuality in school classes?

Well, couple of points on that one.

1. Russia is a federation of territories and Republics, most of the Republics already had far stricter laws against homosexuality in the public space prior to that law being passed. It's purpose was more to harmonize existing legislation at a subordinate level than anything else.

2. There's nothing in the MSM about Qatar's World Cup bid in 2022 and its relationship to gay rights. There's a few pieces about their treatment of migrant laborers, but that's about it. It goes to show something important: Liberals implicitly expect people with white skin who look like them to hold the sort of views they do (liberal on homosexuality and the family for example), and when they don't, they're much harsher and more proactive in going about witch-hunts than they are with non-whites.

To me this suggests two more things.

1. White liberals acknowledge racial differences in how it applies to culture on some level, they just fail to internalize the consequences of this as an axiom.

2. If you hold steadfast to your principles, like Muslims do, you shift expectations accordingly. If right wingers in the west weren't such cowards who balked and reneged on their promises to electorates every time some liberal rag printed a picture of some poor 35-year old migrant child being deported, then the middle ground would gradually shift accordingly. No leftist engages with a Muslim with the expectation that they should accept open displays of homosexuality (a la Fulsom Street Fair), but they do have this expectation of white right wingers, because most white rightists are simple cowards whose only desire is to receive the "moderate" stamp of approval from CNN/MSNBC/NYT/BBC News etc.

No. 114404

>>114388
Pretty sure other anon is expressing surprise that this is basically promoting war with Russia.

No. 114405

>>114363
I'm confused - do people seriously think Russia is made up of exclusively white people and has no women in their army?

Read a book, Jesus Christ this is tragic.
There are several TV shows about women's training for the Russian army on fucking YouTube of all places, with subs. And where do they think Siberia, Chechnya and Buryatia are, with all those Asians and Arabs?

Genuinely curious what Americans think Russia is like, you can't be this thick.

No. 114411

>>114405
I'm not American dude. And I know the Russian federation encompasses central Asian ethnicities. But that's irrelevant, from the perspective of most westerners their country is overwhelmingly white. And ethnic Russians themselves are of course too.

For some reason or another you managed to completely miss the point of my post.

No. 114423

Why are non-American anons posting off topic in this thread?

No. 114424

>>114411
>from the perspective of most westerners
that doesn't make it true though? from the perspective of most westerners nobody outside of america knows about toothpaste.

I really hope Trump wins so we can demolish North America once and for all.

No. 114432

>>114424
You are completely missing the point. My point was about how western leftists see race, based on a comparison between the treatment of ostensibly (crucial word here) white Russians and brown gulf Arabs.

Now can you stop being a leftist sperger for two seconds?

I have some other food for thought as to why European leftists have a particularly visceral hatred for white Americans, but that's more psychological. And even less flattering to your kind.

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>>114405
what most americans think of russia is nothing. if they don't have family or friends or coworkers from there/that visit there, don't visit for work, and otherwise have no investment in russia or russians, knowledge about the country is understandably low, based mostly off of movies and stereotypes. especially now since there is no cold war or soviet union, and the extent of russkies in the media is putin, daredevil teenagers, vodka, and blonde, buxom brides.
russia has no immediate impact on the lives of most people, ergo, there is no reason to care about it or its people or places.

No. 114436

>>114366
I'm 100% sure it's fake, made by either a fan or anti-fan. it's written really retardedly to begin with.

No. 114498

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Just curious why did FBI director Comey announce they were reopening the investigation on Hillary with 11 days to go? Everyone knows the FBI won't be able to resolve this before the elections and this will hang around her neck like an albatross. Do you think Comey is making a power play?

>>114436
I think so too. I've been seeing those popping up all over twitter.

No. 114499

Anyone else genuinely kind of scared, though?

Really worried that Clinton or Trump in office will get trigger happy with the nuke codes and before we know it, America is destroyed and we're the refugees.

I don't care who takes office. I just don't want to be homeless in what used to be America.

No. 114503

>>114499
And who'd he piss off with such a capability? He desires to be friends with Russia; EU is very reliant on the USA doing all the heavy lifting and China's got a first-strike policy but they still need the US as a trading partner.

No. 114506

>>114499
Trump is like the only chance of any sort of change to the status quo of us foreign policy. I'll admit it's a chance rather than a guarantee that much will change. But it's certainly orders of magnitude more likely under him than hillary. That's why I literally give two fucks about his personal conduct. It's irrelevant. This is the only opportunity we're ever going to have to stop liberal internationalism in its tracks.

No. 114545

>>114498
I'm pretty sure if Hillary gets the vote, refugees still won't be let in. America knows exactly what happens when millions of people from a different race/culture arrives.

No. 114552

>>114545
please dont let more rapefugees in Lord save us

No. 114711

I was a Bernie hopeful. I (begrudgingly) supported Hillary when he was cheated out of the primaries. I thought Trump MUST lose for the good of the country. He's a regressive, GOP puppet. However, lately, I find myself hoping he wins. When the Democratic party sees what they lost to, maybe it will make them change their policies. Maybe it will push them away from Wall Street cronies like Hillary and her running mate. I don't think Trump would be the worst for our country anymore, Hillary will be. She's very likely to send us to another war we can't afford. Trump will be ineffectual at best. I hope.

No. 114748

>>114711
I'm starting to feel the same way, anon. I don't like Trump, he lacks decorum and is certainly not president-material, but I don't think many of his ideas will get through congress. I'm a brown woman so people are fucking shocked when they find out that I'm not for Hillary 100 percent. Trump is a cunt but Hillary is actually corrupt.

Also kind of off-topic, but the anon above who got ~triggered~ by the use of the term PoC got me wondering if people actually find that term racist, or is it just the association of the term with militant feminists and "reverse racism don't real" racists that puts them off? I personally think PoC as a term is fine in certain contexts, but usually saying "racially minorities" is suitable (for instance, if you're talking about non-white people in general, not just in the Unites States, then "racial minority" would be inaccurate, but otherwise it's fine).

No. 115249

>>115248
>Whites are expected to become the minority in the US within the next decades.

You realise that if the US is 60% white that still makes them by far the biggest ethnic group in the country, right?

It's not 60/40, all other races don't get put together in one group. Even if the US was only 40% white, if there was only three other ethnic groups in the country that all accounted for 20%, that would still make the US be dominated by white people, as by far the biggest group.

You're silly.

No. 115252

>>115250
Well, you're obviously baiting at this point, but PoC isn't a race, or an ethnic group, it's a collection of different races.

I don't see the point of acting retarded to try to bait though, it's not anything people haven't seen before.

No. 115255

>>115253
>Please tell me how you interpreted my posts that made you think I think this.

When you acted like white people being less than 50% means they are no longer the dominant ethnic group in the country.

>yet still stand as one people.


Which is bullshit.

>It might be hard for you to believe but I'm not baiting,


Seeing as you're posting shit that is clearly just intended to be inflammatory, yeah, it is hard to believe.

No. 115258

I'll be supporting Hillary. I was undecided until the debates and Trump blew it.

I don't believe Trump is a stupid man, and I know Conway and Bannon were on his ass, warning him not to take the bait Hillary would throw out. The fact that he couldn't resist feeding the troll for weeks after the first and third debate tells me he has a dangerous vanity problem. His ego is more important than all the advice of his advisors when he's under pressure, and I think that's an unacceptable flaw in a person who will be commander and chief.

I'm sure people who disagree can list a million flaws that Clinton has, but she will listen to the advisors and experts around her for things that are important.

Donald Trump is on record saying that he would respond with force to Iranian taunting or disrespect "And, by the way, with Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people, that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water"

His generals aren't fools, and they will tell him not to do that. But if he acts the same way with the Pentagon as he does with his campaign managers, he might actually start a hot war with Iran over something like this. I can't vote for him.

No. 115260

>>115256
>It would only be inflammatory if you're white, you said you're a PoC right? We're allies, not enemies.

I'm an immigrant from a white country, grandparents fled in WW2 Parents were born while they were waiting in a safe inbetween country to where I live now. I'm about as white as an ethnic Jew is, though not a jew.

White people aren't a single ethnic group, and PoC are even less so.

It's offensive to all parties involved to say that they are, it turns it into a retarded "us vs them" argument and erases the possibility of anyone who is in one of those hundreds of races you're merging into one being able to hold an opinion different to yours.

So it's either bait, or you're a legitimate retard who cares more about being condescending and assuming that she knows better than minority groups do.

Either way, you really have nothing to say, and I don't see the point of you posting that shit.

No. 115272

>>115256
>you said you're a PoC right?

I think you're confusing the anon you're replying to with me (I posted >>114748). They didn't say they were PoC, I did.

No. 115343

What to people think is going to become of this FBI bullshit? Thoughts? Also thoughts on what Comey's true intentions were?

I've heard that a bunch of ppl in the FBI below him were going to resign in protest, that he found something legit and knew he couldn't get away with releasing it after he election, amongst other theories. I liked Hannity's the best. I was hate-watching Fox News as usual, and he said they knew Wikileaks was going to release something big, so he had to act. What do the smart anons on here think? Regardless of who you're supporting, I'm curious.

I'm still supporting Hillary as of now, but TBH I don't think I'm going to actually vote since my state is very blue and there's no early voting. Id also have to drive about an hour to my state to do this, just to wait in line to vote for someone I'm not thrilled about.

No. 115344

>>115343
Also, if anyone cares or was going to ask, I'm still supporting Hillary for all of the same reasons I discussed before in my above posts with all of the Nixon pictures, if they're still there. I don't feel like scrolling up to quote them.

Like I said, any Hillary supporter has come to terms with all of this email bullshit since early in the primaries. We still don't even know what was on them, and I think most of us have just assumed by now that yes, there was confidential stuff on there that yes, she was probably aware of. But AFAIK, it doesn't seem to have had a major influence in anything or caused any major issues with our policies. A lot of stuff can be classified for a variety of reasons. I'm not going to assume t was something minor, but given the way things have played out thus far, I'm not going to assume it was something major, either.

No. 115354

>>115343
>I've heard that a bunch of ppl in the FBI below him were going to resign in protest

Hannity had Hillary Clinton's fixer on his show, a man who supposedly arranged wild lesbian sex parties for Hillary according to the national enquirer.

Anything anti-hillary gets on the show without any vetting. The idea that a bunch of career civil servants with fat pensions, airtight job security and legal godhood as federal law enforcement would decide to resign over her emails–thats even less believable than the fixer.These guys aren't righteous knights of virtue.

No. 115358

>>115354
Oh absolutely, I take anything I see on Fox News with a grain of salt. I wasn't referring to that theory as being the one I liked best. I meant Hannity's theory that someone knew Wikileaks was going to release something big so they had to act now. He came up with that one "all on his own" and it just made a lot of sense to me TBH, especially with the type of stuff we've seen coming out of Wikileaks so far.

And lmao about the lesbian sex parties. Just about everything in that statement was a major red flag, as I'm sure you know:
>Fox News
>Hannity
>National Enquirer
>Lesbian + Hillary Clinton
>Lesbian + Sex parties
>Wild lesbian sex parties for Hillary

Top kek.

No. 115363

>>115354
>>115358

>Hillary + Sex


Maximum kek. Even if a shirtless Paul Ryan descended onto her from the Speaker's chair into a bed of roses on the captiol floor, she'd still be dryer than the Sahara.

At this point she probably has exsplosive orgasms from reading polls that show her leading in the battleground states. Nothing else can do it for her.

No. 115371

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>>115363
Lolz. Just imagine the multiples she'll have once she wins.

And since apparently anything goes this election, imagine the rage quit/afk of Hillary if she loses. Christ, when either one of them loses, no matter who gives the concession speech, it'll be top kek regardless.

No. 115454

>>115344
you're an idiot. And the nixon spam was retarded.

No. 115455

>>115358
I don't see what's so shocking about her being a lesbian. This thread shows why women shouldnt be allowed to vote. This is coming from a women.

No. 115456

>>115455
Woman*

No. 115458

>>114506
Exactly im not going to sit here and get fucked by refugees and nuked while hillary is safe and she knows she will and care NOTHING about what happens to us. People need to do their fucking research on her she is not the lesser of two evils. And yes you can see the contents of the emails morons stop cnn and do your own work.

No. 115459

it doesn't matter who i vote for in my state. still going to anyways. would just like this all to be over with

No. 115465

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>>115454
CHRIST get over it, it was a fucking week ago jfc. One of my bans got lifted early and the original ban gets lifted tonight (praiiisee I am so tired of turning off my wi-fo, then forgetting and realizing I used a shit ton of data on my phone). Anyways, you're probably the same ~totes edgy~ hardcore imageboard anon that was freaking out about it over in /meta/. Have I posted a single picture of Nixon in the past week? Nope. It's over with, move on thanks.
Christ, some of you really are pathetic. Apparently avatarfagging is more of a concern to you than idk, say, CP? Go cry about ~OMG! Le newfags! Gasp~ !

>>115455
Lmao. No one take the bait here. Obvious troll is obvious.

>>115458
Wow uhh I'm starting to sense some obvious samefag since my last post here, but whatever. While I don't really agree with anything you said, since we are in anon and all, I'm really not totally thrilled about the idea of a bunch of refugees coming in here, either. We have plenty of enough issues with unemployment, overcrowding, etc. And despite plenty of evidence that's it worked fine elsewhere in a Canada, the US is different and I'm just really unclear if the magnitude of refugees she would bring in…

And it's not totally an "Omg terrorist!" thing for me here, either, but idk, still. There's only so much we can know about these ppl who have been living somewhere that couldn't be more different than the west. And yeah, while everyone who's settled elsewhere and has been interviewed seems 100% normal and hates ISIS just as much, the enemy is determined and it just takes that one person to slip through the cracks.

With that said, Trump's entire rhetoric and stance on this issue is absolute garbage. It's fear-mongering, racist and every other sense of "deplorable" in the book lol. Talk about two extremes.

>>115459
And that is…still going to vote for who? Lol

No. 115466

>>115455
Of course you are a woman, dude.

No. 115477

>>115465
Different anon, but if you go out of your way to make yourself stand out (like by posting shitloads of pics of Nixon), then don't be so surprised when people get annoyed.

No. 115481

I voted for Hillary yesterday. Different reasons, but the biggest is because of Roe v Wade and other women's health issues. I agree with her stance on it and if she picks any supreme court justices, odds are they will too, and that is important to me.

Trump made a knob out of himself in the last debate when it came to abortion.

No. 115485

>>115477
Oh totes, and I wasn't surprised abt being banned, either. I totally get it. But that was a week ago, lol. So it's just weird for someone to still be getting their panties twisted about it. Especially when I did it for like, idk a couple of hours before they were deleted, and it was mostly contained to /b/.

No. 115486

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I recently found out my small, close knit, Midwestern town is taking in Syrian refugee families and giving them 4 bedroom apartments. FOR FREE. Another larger city near by and a city up north my family lives in are doing the same thing.
lolz nope. Not in my town, my state, my country.
That what has single handedly made me decide Trump. With all the awful stuff about Hillary, and the fact that I tend to identify more with conservativism, there is absolutely no way I'd consider her. I don't think Trump is good, but he is a far lesser evil and I really feel it's the only way to keep Hillary from winning.

No. 115507

>>115486
Yup…like I said about refugees earlier, as much as I've been arguing for Hillary, unfortunately some of these single-issue decisions are going to go to Trump. I swear half of the liberals, especially the young ones, are all "rah rah yeah let's take in Syrian refugees!" Until it ends up actually happening around them, and then they spend ever day worrying they're going to get bombed.

No one wants it in their backyard. Plus, seriously, why does America have to be the world police? Isn't this exactly what everyone, especially the liberals, were complaining about when we went to war in the middle east? Like okay, how is their country's problem and democracy ours to fix? Now we have to take in refugees? How much do we need to fix?

No. 115511

>>115507
We caused the Syrian Civil War, so in theory it's our responsibility to fix it. At least that's what Hillary's been doing as Secretary of State, funneling money and arms to insurgent groups worldwide in order to remove dictators and continue the Cold War.

Sure, we removed Gaddafi; sure, Assad is now in a bind. But now the entire Middle East is a hornet's nest of war and instability, causing pain to countless refugees and Europeans alike.

But Hillary refuses to learn and wants to repeat the same thing with Iran after she's done shooting down Russian jets in Syria.

No. 115542

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>>115511
>Kill Gaddafi
>???? comes into power
Two things are possible
>New leader is democratically elected (not very likely)
>Yanks put their own guy (usually with terrorist background) into power
You know what happens next

No. 115555

As a black woman, Trump hates me so I guess I'll be voting for Hilary

No. 115556

I like Trump, but he will elect Supreme Court Justices that will overturn Roe vs. Wade (he said this). Meaning any state can ban abortion entirely. I'm extremely careful with my bf, 2 types of birth control and all, but I'm terrified of being forced to bear a child. This is the issue that could have the most impact in my life, so I have to vote Hillary. It's really frustrating - Trump used to be socially liberal but he had to switch sides to get Republican support.

No. 115573

>CTRL + F Jill Stein
>one link

Am I the only one voting third party?
Sidenote: Getting pretty tired of whenever I criticism Trump, Trumplettes think I'm voting for Clinton and automatically go on the offensive. Never get a response from them after I tell them I'm voting third party. It's like they realize how embarrassing they are and fuck off.

Also is anyone else seeing on their facebooks this ad for "womensvote" where it's trying to guilt people into voting for Clinton because voting third party is "letting Trump win"? It's such nonsense.

No. 115586

>>115556
>My biggest issue is abortion
Man, this election sure has made me hate people even more.
Here's hoping Hillary just starts WW3 so I can rest easy knowing people like you will be killed as well.

No. 115609

>>115586
It's unfathomable to some people that you might not be allowed to remove something from your own body, even if it is another person. Even if you dont intend to ever have an abortion, the idea that some bureaucrat has to give you the okay to do something that takes place entirely in the sovereign space of your own body is just off-putting.

It's such an easy thing to drop from the party platform, and Republicans can win everything forever because the rest of their policies are pretty sensible.

Trump should have held firm as pro-choice, but with Cruz and Carson biting at his ankles the whole time, he was cornered into tying the socially conservative anchor around his neck.

No. 115610

>>115573
Maybe they realize, much like Jill Stein, your vote for her is irrelevant

No. 115611

>>115609
No one really knows what Trump really believes in.

Like Hillary, he'll say anything to appease his crowd to get votes. There is no guarantee he'll fulfill any 'promises' he made.
>Just like Clinton
The only difference between them two is Trump has few political connections, hated by Democrats and the GOP establishment alike. On the other hand Hillary has many political connections (including Wall St and big donors) can actually get things done (like start WW3).

No. 115616

>>115609
>It's unfathomable to some people that you might not be allowed to remove something from your own body
I personally don't care, so long as you don't try to make other people pay for/subsidize it.
I would be all for all this stupid bullshit people want if they weren't trying to make me pay for it via taxes.
At that point they can fuck off.

No. 115618

>>115511
True anon, but wasn't this a result of us going there in the first place? A result of everything we started after 9/11 and what continued when Obama had to pick up the pieces? Genuinely asking, because I was kind of young when all of this went down and not really paying attention, so idk as much about it as other wars throughout history.

IMHO, unless any of this was a direct result of H.W. Bush's Gulf War, it doesn't seem like we really had any business there, ya know? And Saddam Hussein threading Bush's daddy doesn't count, either.

>>115555
Lol, yeah, I heard something today on The Daily Show (ugh Trevor Noah…please improve. Especially that curly haired redhead that won't stop screeching about her period) that something like only 2% of "African Americans" (is it really preferable to be called "African Americans" btw?) are voting for Trump. And tbh even that sounds high to me…lol

>>115573
Ugh are you serious anon? Besides the fact that you're voting third party (remember Ralph Nader…?), you're voting for Jill Stein. She may have taken back her idiotic statement abt vaccines, but she's a doctor and actually tried to pander to those idiot anti-vaxxers and imply that they could be harmful. Even if she's clarified it now, any reasonable doctor in their right mind would outright say that vaccines should be mandatory and would stress their importance and back it up with evidence in the interest of their goal to "do no harm." Fucking Jill Stein and her healing crystals…the Green Party could have done so much better. And he plan to banish student loans may sound good, but whenever she discusses it it's clear that she just doesn't know what she's talking about as hasn't done the right amount of research.

Also anon, check out her Reddit AMA. People pointed out even more worrying things abt her views, especially things her Vice President has said. And to make matters worse, she just didn't answer those difficult questions. I've never seen so many downvotes in an AMA…

And lastly, if you or someone else is going to give me shit for denouncing a third party candidate just because they're third party, I realize that is a problem, and that overcoming thinking like that would be the only way to actually break the two parties system and elect someone like that. But I thought about it, I even thought about maybe voting for Jill Stein, because if there's any time a third party candidate could finally shine through, it'd be in an election like this. I would 100% vote for her or Gary Johnson if I really believed in them and one of them truly alligned with my views. But they are both terrible and just don't know what they are talking about. This whole election is just shit all around unfortunately.

No. 115619

Also, sage for samefag, but I agree with what some of the other anons here are saying about abortion.

As a woman, that's such an important issue to me, and basically leads me to becoming a single-issue voter, so long as there's nothing else truly worrying about the pro-choice candidate.

I may not be a teen anymore and don't have to worry about an unwanted pregnancy fucking up my future, but even now that I'm older it matters. So much. I'm still finding my footing and an unwanted pregnancy would still have an effect on me. I just don't have the money to properly support a kid and would still need to heavily rely on my family. I'm also not married. So I'd ideally like to wait until I'm married and my spouse and I (or at least one of us) have a stead job.

No. 115637

>>115618
Not the anon you're talking to, but you're acting like they actually have a chance of being elected. They don't. Vote 3rd party so a better candidate can come along later. They need 15% of the vote this election to be allowed into establishment debates next election. Fuck Jill, fuck Gary, but vote 3rd party anyway. They won't get the presidency, so it doesn't matter that they suck, but we NEED more options in the future.

No. 115654

>>115610
You're the cancer that killed our democracy and literally turned it into a two-party system.

>>115618
>She may have taken back her idiotic statement abt vaccines

And Hillary took back her stances on opposition gay marriage, abortion, being for the Iraq war, etc. Politicians flip-flop, and if we're going based on what every one of them said at one point then all of them would be hypocrites and unelectable.

NONE of the candidates answered any super huge questions this election season. It's all been clickbait shit like muh immigration, muh jobs, muh abortions, and shit like that. I've barely heard them talk about any actual research done to fix Obamacare (only that the opposition will 'take it back'), or the student loans, or really anything that impacts the average American on a day to day basis.

No. 115655

>>115654
Samefag again but oops, actually Bernie Sanders did talk about that shit but we all know who he endorsed, so.
Unfortunately I can't write him in on my ballot in my state.

No. 115677

>>115619
How about don't be a old ass slut?

No. 115678

>>115586
Its just bitches that want to be sluts with no consequences. Im not paying for that shit.

No. 115702

>>115677
>>115678
Nice b8 m8.

No. 115854

As an Australian… please vote for trump. Cmon. It'll be funny.

No. 115879

vote for trump.

even if you hate him, if he wins? he wont go to war with russia. every politician on both sides will hate his guts so its not like he"ll be able to make as many changes as obama.

No. 115886

>>115879
On a scale of 0 to WW3, how realistic are the claims that Hillary wants to take us to war?

No. 115888

>>115879
You are retarded and don't know how politics in USA works. Trump win means Republican house and senate which gives him chance to do anything he wants including nominating conservative Supreme Court Justices who may end up bringing back the country 50 years.

But you are just a retarded fucking ape so I forgive you for all your stupidity.

At the end of the day if you wanna be able to have an abortion in case your kid turns out to be a brainless sissy reatrd like those Hartley Hooligans you may wanna vote for Hillary, I know it's a hard choice that she deleted some emails and fell down once but such are the risks we have to take when the other choice is fucking Trump of all people.

No. 115889

>>115888
This. Thank you for this anon.

For fuck's sake, I just want this election to end already. It's like I'm voting for which way we want America to fail, but I guess this election is about voting for the lesser of evil, Jfc.

No. 115890

>>115888
I know it's a hard choice, but your premise that Hillary is the lesser of two evils is not sound.

One choice is a clown with an ego too big for his own pants, the other one represents corporate and foreign interests buying U.S. government appointments and policy decisions from top to bottom. I happen to believe Trump will do harm to the nation, but a much lesser harm than Clinton.

No. 115892

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>>110581
>Using politifact as a source

No. 115894

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No. 115895

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BJRpfmCjrM

Ouch
I guess blood is not thicker than water

No. 115898

>>115892
Yeah, because this incredibly biased image where when democrats make shit up, it's just "mostly true" or "half true", but when Republicans use the wrong gender specifier for trans people, it's 100% false, and even one where everything they say is 100% correct in a quote it still comes up as "Mostly false" because you don't like the comparison, that's absolutely fair.

And the final quote that shows up as "Pants on fire" is clearly taken out of context.


This is a fucking terrible image, and you should feel bad for posting it, no matter who you support, this sort of stupid propaganda helps nobody.

No. 115903

>>115898
That was the whole fucking point of their post. Calm down poopsy.

No. 115904

>>115903
Oh shit, yeah, I missed that completely.

My point still stands about that sort of shit helping absolutely no-one though.

No. 115919

>>115886
She has voted and supported pretty much all the wars we've had since 9/11. She's a complete warhawk and has argued for making a no-fly zone in Aleppo, which could trigger war with Russia since enforcing that would mean shooting down Syrian & Russian aircraft.

>>115888
They won't control the house and senate no matter what on november 8th.

And you forget republicans are milquetoast pussies who only give lip service to their constituents. They only care about corporate cock.

Did we see sweeping right-wing govt. changes under Bush when he had a supermajority in both houses? No. Even Reagan had amnesty passed and banned machine guns.

>>115888
>At the end of the day if you wanna be able to have an abortion in case your kid turns out to be a brainless sissy reatrd like those Hartley Hooligans you may wanna vote for Hillary, I know it's a hard choice that she deleted some emails and fell down once but such are the risks we have to take when the other choice is fucking Trump of all people.

yeah, no way in hell that will be overturned. and really worse comes to worst there's this thing called adoption.

No. 115925

>>115886
100% chance there will be a shooting war with Russia in Syria. Chance of it going nuclear is ~5-10%

No. 115928

>>115343
I heard on NPR that there were confirmed internal tensions in the FBI, and the theory that the FBI house was on fire so Comey leapt at the first chance to repoen the case against Hillary makes the most sense.

No. 115930

>>115556
That's what Trump is saying as a Republican candidate, most likely he still holds the same view he had on abortion before the election, i.e. he supports it. He even said in the Republican primaries that he supports Planned Parenthood, meaning he is pretty much the most pro-abortion Republican you can get. The justices aren't just going to turn over Roe vs. Wade because they're conservative, the Supreme Court is definitely more functional than that.

Please vote Trump so that the Republican party gradually softens their stance on abortion. Thanks.

No. 115946

>>115930
I think you are being too optimistic, the neo-cons will fight tooth and nail to maintain they influence they've had over the GOP for decades. He's more likely to cave into the GOP dogma

The only reason people (including me) are voting for him is for the slim chance, however slim, that they could screw over the existing political establishment. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY-CiPVo_NQ

No. 115948

>>115946
Trump is the very antithesis to the neocons, in fact most neo-cons have been on Clinton's side from Day 1 after Trump's nomination.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/neocons-trump-voters-drop-dead-17344
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/how-neocons-are-still-winning-2016-17361

I don't really see the relation between neo-cons and the abortion issue though, I think you have your Republican factions mixed up.

I'm not suggesting that anti-abortion stance will instantly collapse and dissolve should Trump get elected, but as I've said, Trump has been the most pro-abortion Republican candidate (and socially liberal in a few other areas as well) and is therefore a push in the right direction. A major Trump defeat would be extremely damaging to this political change.

No. 115949

Seriously don't fall for the retarded crap the robots are spouting here. No one knows what Trump's policies are gonna be, not even Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/03/donald-trumps-ever-shifting-positions-on-abortion/

Now go ahead and attack the source. Soon you'll be crying off to r9k about how Trump lost anyway.

No. 115952

>>115949
>anyone who has supporting arguments for trump must be a robot xD
can you not

>boring constant view on abortion (pro-choice) before politics

>positions start changing wildly after entering the race as a Republican candidate

gee I wonder why

No. 115956

>>115586
>>115678
While I am positive this is just for bait, I will say this: unless your carbon footprint is 0, you are vegan, you do not use any products tested on animals, you regularly volunteer all of your free time to others, donate to causes in need, and brighten the day of every single person you happen to come across with genuine happiness, your opinion on telling others what to do with their bodies is completely irrelevant.

No. 115957

>>115616
An even higher amount of your taxes go to people who have kids who can't afford to take care of them or to orphanages. For 18 years a piece.

No. 115961

>>115956
What does
>your carbon footprint is 0, you are vegan, you do not use any products tested on animals, you regularly volunteer all of your free time to others, donate to causes in need, and brighten the day of every single person you happen to come across with genuine happiness
have to do with telling others what to do with their bodies?

No. 115968

>>115946
>I think you are being too optimistic, the neo-cons will fight tooth and nail to maintain they influence they've had over the GOP for decades. He's more likely to cave into the GOP dogma

The neocons like Bill Kristol are the ones behind #Nevertrump. They've doggedly turned against him and there's no way Trump will pander to them at this point.

No. 115985

>>115961
Basically, unless you are as close to a perfect human being as possible (your existence harms essentially no one/nothing and helps many), you don't have any right whatsoever to tell others what to do with an unwanted pregnancy.

No. 115989

I voted for Hillary despite agreeing with almost all of Trump's stances on the issues. More than wanting him to win, I want the movement behind him to be scattered and destroyed.

My coworkers have successfully turned me into a secret traitor against republicans by mindlessly regurgitating things they hear on 660 and 820 AM. It's like they lost their fucking minds, Trump has become a god to them and suddenly they are shifting all their long-held opinions just to follow him.

4 years of shillary won't be as bad as a single day of smug gloating by faggots who ignored 16 qualified candidates because they wanted a clown who was a dumb as they are.

No. 116000

>>115989
Neocon spotted

>>115985
But why does that perfect human being get that right? It's still your body and circumstances, not the perfect person's.

No. 116234

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Tonight will be exciting, more so than the last two elections.

No. 116238

>>116234
Weird ballot

No. 116239

Is anyone interesting doing election coverage online tonight?
I want something to watch, rather than refreshing the map on a journal or google or something.

No. 116240

>>116239
Stephen Colbert has a thing on SHOWTIME, called 'Who's going to clean up this sh*t'

No. 116241

>>116234
It makes me pretty angry that they write it in Spanish.

If you can't understand the language of a country you have no right to be voting in it.

No. 116246

>>116241
There is no official federal language of US. If anything there should be more languages on the ballot.

No. 116248

>>116246
The language is English, de-facto or otherwise.

Spics so fresh off the border they can't even speak English have no right to be anywhere near a voting booth.

I would never go to any foreign country and demand I be able to vote without even understanding their language.

No one is that extremely cucked except countries in the West.

No. 116299

>>115610
This exactly what's wrong with your voting system, Americans. You could have had Jill Stein, but euhh..

No. 116300

>>116299
Jill Stein is fucking terrible. Green party kooks are literally just the hipster wing of the left.

No. 116301


No. 116302

>>116300
But either way the only candidate with a positive connection to Wikileaks.

No. 116315

>>116300
>kooks
More like the candidates with no criminal investigations or lawsuits pending who aren't backed by corrupted interests like the NRA and big corporations. Keep drinking your bi party koolaid.

No. 116316

>>116300
Ron Paul has stated Jill Stein is the best on foreign policy, whereas Johnson is a fake libertarian.

Johnson is also an idiot.

No. 116323

So who's ready for the trump presidency?

It's time to hustle and find out how to make money off of this. The poor are gonna get poorer (white trash included), and the rich are gonna get richer.

No. 116324

>>116323
I'm in new zealand and I'm still not ready for it.

No. 116326

>>116323
Well if you did some online betting as recently as last weekend, you'll be getting a 5:1 return right now.

No. 116327

>>116323
I've heard some talk over on finance that when the stocks crash when Trump gets confirmed, lots of people are going to buy up corporate stock because that will still be reliable despite nervous holders.

>Hillary voters so mad on fb they're actually blaming third party voters for Trump even though in nearly every red and swing state Hillary would have still been beaten if she had all those votes

>for some reason Hillary voters aren't as angry at people who voted Trump or the millions from each state who literally didn't vote at all

No. 116328

Just fuck my shit up fam

No. 116329

lol

No. 116330

>>116327
Because they parties have spent this whole time enforcing a bipartisan mentality in order to precent a third party takeover. As recently as last week they were posting charts and infographics all about why third party voters should go blue.

A lot of the young, scared voters are misunderstanding what a president can actually do. Just like they did when they elected obama and thought he could fix the country. The hate and fear mongering was just an opportunity for the media and the two parties to get even richer than ever before.

No. 116332

>>116330
>last week they were posting charts and infographics all about why third party voters should go blue

Which is funnier since they do this every election. I remember for 09 Obama election there was literally a huge debate on my campus about whether or not third party was a waste of a vote. Most sane people agreed the biggest threat were non-voters.

No. 116333

Can somebody please fucking enlighten me what is so bad about a Trump presidency that has all of the libtards on my Facebook feed crying and acting like the country is going to shit?

No. 116334

>>116330

So does this mean the supreme court is gonna be right leaning? Thats 50+ years of an ever present republican influence.

No. 116335

>>116333

It's not just trump, republicans have the house as well. Anything republicans want will go through without issue. We'll be seeing an influx of (possibly extemely) conservative policy starting next year.

No. 116336

>>116333
Don't worry. You have 4 years to find out.

No. 116340

>>116333
There's fucking CANADIANS who literally had no part in this election acting like that.

No. 116342

Trump is just one big meme at this point. People saying they are fearing for their life? Scared of the outcome of America? Literally nothing will change, yet people act like come January all black people will be back in the fields and anything 'Mexican' will be banned from even mentioning.

>>116340
I'm loving seeing all of these sore losers who have never had a passport in their life or have never researched immigrating to another country talking about skipping off to Canada.

No. 116343

>>116342

Obviously no one should be shitting their pants, but it's a little naive to say nothing will change.

Republicans hold the house AND POTUS. Shit gets done when a party holds both of these, and it's likely they will hold senate as well. Additionally Donald will likely appoint republicans as supreme court justices.

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No. 116345

>>116343
But most people aren't complaining about the policies and party change. They are too hung up on Trump as a person being 'racist' and 'misogynistic'.

No. 116346

>>116345
They're fucking idiots, that's why. They don't know how politics work and I bet none of them have ever read a Supreme Court opinion in all their damn lives.
It's just easier to shout at people about their anxiety and how people are oppressing marginalized folks because they didn't vote for Hillary.
People are fucking dumb. I'm literally being told every thing I've ever done for reproductive rights, petitions I've signed, political campaigns I've participated in are "nothing" just because I didn't vote for that bitch or Dump and apparently that makes me a supreme selfish racist and sexist.
You know, not the people who actually did the pseudo protesting by not voting to begin with.

Fucking assholes, the lot of them.

No. 116347

Looking forward to four years of burning it down so we can start over.

Still feel the same way I did in
>>110265
With the addition that since Hillary and the DNC effectively rigged the nomination against Bernie (though who knows if he could have got it anyway) and then lost the presidency to fucking Donald Trump means that the democratic voterbase will split. Maybe they'll reform over authoritarian/libertarian lines.

This could be the beginning of the end for both the evangelical right and the regressive left. America might genuinely be great again.

No. 116348

>>116345

Which I find kind of funny. They don't realize how fucked they got. Supreme Court justices are not elected, they're placed there by the government and they stay there until they die or retire.

I'm guessing if we get two conservative supreme court justices (which is likely since the tea party pretty much is the Republican party at this point), they will probably attempt to appeal gay marriage, abortion rights, and many other liberal laws.

We'll see though. Lol.

No. 116349

>>116345
God forbid people not wanting a racist and a misogynist as president. Also, just which policies of trump do you like?

>inb4 wall

No. 116350

>>116348
>appeal gay marriage, abortion rights, and many other liberal laws
I doubt they'll make major strides with abortion or gay marriage tbh.

No. 116351

>>116343
Trump isn't a Republican, he's an independent that stole the Republican nomination. He doesn't even adhere to core GOP policies. He's going to find it very hard to whip votes for unwanted policies in a Republican party that wouldn't even support his presidential campaign.

No. 116352

>>116351

Trump doesn't give a shit about his position except that he can put it on his resume. I find it difficult to believe that he will veto much if not anything that goes through the house. Why would he? He may as well be Republican.

I'm genuinely curious to see how he's gonna handle foreign policy though.

No. 116353

>>116352
Yeah sure, the 'real' republicans are definitely in power. My point was that Donald isnt going to be able to force through a load of mental shit since it wont have party support.

No. 116354

Think Trump will live long enough to be sworn in in Jan?

No. 116355

>>116353

But the Republican party is infested with by the tea party. They are the 'real' republicans. They vote using their weird religious moral compassion instead of general logic. What's trump gonna do to top them? Why would he care about their policy making anyways?

No. 116356

>>116354

Oh definitely. If he does die, his VP is terrible anyways.

No. 116359

God forbid Americans elect the only person for forty years who has made any sort of gesture towards ending a liberal internationalist foreign policy.

God forbid you keep your paws out of the messes people like seizure granny and her husband made in the balkans, near East and North Africa.

Goes to show how fucking empty your antiwar rhetoric really was.

Choke on your rage. Your arrogance has undone you, just like it did during brexit.

No. 116360

>>116355
Liberalism and Christianity are both religious/faith based beliefs.

No. 116361

>>116348
The gay marriage law is a travesty, homosexuals have marital dysfunction rates orders of magnitude above those of heterosexuals. The entire social cause was manufactured by the entertainment and media industries, nobody even thought about this until soros backed ngos pushed for it and US TV shows started pushing a positive and sympathetic image of homosexuals.

Homosexuals have a life expectancy nearly twenty years below that of heterosexuals.

No. 116362

>>116359

The irony is that he won because he brought out the poor white people to vote for him. But they're gonna get just as fucked as the poor brown people when things start rolling out.

Whether you're republican, democratic, or indipendent, you can't say this is a serious comedic twist.

No. 116363

>>116346
Trump is a serial womaniser. He doesn't give two fucks about southern baptist bullshit except to win votes. If anything Trumps victory shows that the consevatives in America care more about real issues like immigration and endemic criminality than they do abortion or some other desert kike religion stuff.

No. 116364

>>116362
Fucked by what? Liberals openly despise poor white people in America. They go on TV shows and make no secret of this fact.

It's amazing you expect poor whites to vote for people who smugly talk about how they "want to make white men extinct".

Are you delusional or something? Why would ANY self respecting white person vote for someone or something that gleefully talks about how it wants to destroy them and make them a minority?

No. 116365

>>116364

Trump doesn't give a shit about poor people. Lol. What makes you think he does?

No. 116366

>>116365
And shitlibs openly talk about how much they despise poor white people and everything about them.

For shitlibs the very existence of "white neighborhoods" or "white schools" is a "problem" that needs to be "resolved".

Again: It is not in white people's group interest, regardless of socio-economic class, to vote for people who proactively despise them and wish to see them dispossessed as a group.

Leftists who sit there and wonder why poor whites "don't vote in their self interest", would do well to look at the sort of rhetoric that comes out of the left vis a vis white people, and their policies with regards to immigration.

No. 116368

>>116366

So you agree Trump doesn't give a shit about poor people?

No. 116369

>>116368
I don't know the inner thoughts of the guy so it's neither here nor there.

My point is that on the balance sheet it makes sense to vote against liberals rather than for them if you're white, since liberals want to destroy white majority status everywhere on earth and find the very existence of something that is white - even if it's implicitly white - to be distasteful (see white neighborhoods, schools etc).

Like I said earlier: choke on your rage, you arrogant cunt. Did you think you could get away with shitting on whites forever?

No. 116371

>>116365
The poor people sure do think so.

No. 116372

>>116367
>Seeg hail
No underaged people please

No. 116373

>>116369

Why would I choke on my rage? That would be implying I didn't vote for trump.

Fortunately for me my family is white and really wealthy, but I'm not gonna deny that he doesn't give a shit about the poor. Anyways, my family is more inclined to profit off the end result of this election so yay for that.

No. 116374

>>116367
Majority of white women are for Trump you cuck

No. 116375

I didn't get to vote because I had a midterm to study for and forgot the ballot at home and libs are treating me like I fucking appointed Trump president myself. Hillary won my state by a landslide and my state has always been blue.

No. 116376

>>116373
Not the person you're arguing with, but no politician gives a fuck about the poor; only their votes.

No. 116377

>>116375

Who the fuck has mid terms in November?

No. 116378

>>116376

Oh I know, I just wanted to see how anon was gonna spin it.

No. 116379

>>116377
LOL my school has a quarter system. The midterm was actually today. Who tf sets a midterm for election night??

No. 116380

>>116379

Damn anon. Well, sorry about you missing out on voting.

No. 116381

>>116380
it's all good

No. 116383

I'm just settling in for The Coming Reign of Trump and having to deal with all the newly validated sexist/racist people and all the hateful bitter libs at the same time. I'm a bi brown woman and I'm genuinely curious to see how little my life changes after this (I live in a liberal state so that'll have some effect on it).

No. 116384

>>116383

There definitely will be changes, best to prepare for now by saving your money (honestly everyone should be doing this already anyways). When the future seems unclear, it's best to try and be as financially prepared as possible.

No. 116385

>>116373
>Fortunately for me my family is white and really wealthy

Hahahaha. Sure they are.

No. 116386


No. 116387

I really hope yanks don't start flooding my country now. Shoo shoo.

No. 116388

As a Latvian I'm bracing for another Cold War when NATO becomes disabled with the help of Trump and Putin ?

No. 116389

>>116388

The cold war is already here.

No. 116390

>>116389
Yeah but with NATO disabled that gives Putin the go-ahead for invasion of Baltic/Eastern European countries
Catch me in my grave in 3 years

No. 116391

>>116390

Will you leave before that happens? It may be best to start preparing if you need to make a quick move.

No. 116392

>selecting the annoying orange for president

america dun fuk'd up

No. 116393

>>116392

Seeing as how popular that retarded channel was, I'm not surprised.

No. 116394

>>116392
Better than the corrupt crippled grandma.

No. 116395

>>116394
I bet he would have sued every american if he didn't win kek

No. 116396

>>116395

He would have his own judge judy-esc show. Except he would be the plaintiff AND the judge. Running back and forth from the judge's seat and the plaintiff's seat. He'd rap the gavel all over the place just for fun. Half way through there would be a dancing lobster segmen- … wait a minute.

No. 116397

>>116390
Oh fuck off, Russia agreed with Bush II back in 04 that the Baltics and further East than Poland were off limits to NATO expansion, you changed that paradigm and provoked the conflict. Fuck you.

No. 116398

>>116391
I'm already out of the country and have been for 6 years, but seeing most of my family and old friends still stuck there leaves me really depressed for their future

No. 116399

>>116398
also sage but I've had thoughts of joining the military just to give meaning to my life
>>116397
elaborate?

No. 116401

>>116399
>elaborate?

I'm Western European, I get why a lot of Balt-bros and Eastern Euros hate Russia, but your slavish love of the EU and America is just as bad.

No. 116402

>>116401
No-one really loves America, but the EU is the smallest evil at the moment imo.

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>>116402
>smallest evil

lol, you have no idea.

Russia just tells you not to allow American missiles on your territory, the EU demand you accept rapefugees at the point of a gun.

You guys love the EU too much.

No. 116406

>>116403

Does this mean she'll be out of a job?

No. 116407

MAGA BITCHES hahahaahahaha

No. 116408

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If you're white, keep safe. Shitskins are out for blood after this.

No. 116410

People are being ridiculous pieces of shit.

No. 116413

>>116390
Kill yourself

No. 116414

>>116335
Sounds good

No. 116415

>>116408
scared to go walk alone some dindus might attack me for being a whitey

No. 116417

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>>116408
Good thing I'm not white. I still voted.
>MAGA

No. 116418

Okay okay okay, humor me this.

Hypothetically, if Trump us found guilty of raping that teen. What happens? Remember, I said hypothetically…

Does he get impeached? Pence takes over?

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>>116417
thanks but you still have to go back.
>>116418
you mean if he was or will be? the case was dropped.

No. 116420

>>116418
The case was dropped, from what I've seen she admitted to making the whole thing up.

But yeah, he'd have been impeached if he was convicted with it.

No. 116421

>>116420

Cool thanks for the answer.

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>>116403
Christ, so fucking delicious.

No. 116424

>>116408
Funny, cumskins (and one certain doritoskin) have been out for shitskins for months, but you know, poor whites and their walls and pussy grabbings and toupees

No. 116426

>>116408
lol good luck white people, I'll be sitting here with my popcorn not being deported bc I was born here.

No. 116427

>>116324
fellow kiwi feeling you

No. 116431

>>116424
>legitimizing literal murder

Pathetic, but my state is stand your ground and you're an internet loser so oh well

No. 116435

>>116299
I'd actually prefer anyone else over Jill stein. Trump and Clinton are both assholes and bad in their own ways but Jill Stein is the kind of stupid that makes it seem unlikely she can run a computer, let alone a
Country in turmoil.

She'd have banned vaccines and wifi then call it a job well done.

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>>116436
They're so dramatic. They really are. This is the same as the other side crying about Obama winning they just don't see the irony tho.

No. 116438

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>mfw americans literally elected a confirmed terrible person out of spite, hatred of "PC culture", and/or meme potential
This is hilarious. It's all downhill from here, little buddies. At least your tabloids will always have content. America confirmed for meme country once and for all.
Hillary would've been bad, but nowhere near as entertaining as Trump can and will be.

No. 116439

>>116436
It's not that serious, goddamn Tumblr.

No. 116440

>>116437
It really is so over the top. Does she expect anyone to believe that she passed out and became suicidal over this? it's ridiculous.

>>116438
Trump actually had pretty good policies, and represents the possibility of change in what's at the moment a very corrupt system that doesn't really serve what the people want.

Clinton represented more of the same, and was pushing towards military conflict with Russia.

Whether Trump actually brings the change he spoke about is yet to be seen, but it was definitely the better choice.

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>>116435
Trump wanted and tried to sue a Finnish fashion designer for using "Ivana" in their name. Now that is some special kind of stupid

>>116438
I'm readying up my popcorns

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I'm kinda glad Trump won. He wants to war China and Mexico. He's gonna fuck up international relationships. Trump might shit America, but Hillary would shit all over the world. Good for us yuropoors.

No. 116444

I think it's hilarious how Americans are "all about democracy" and then cry about it when it doesn't go their way.

No. 116445

>>116441
I'm not saying trump and Clinton aren't also stupid and awful in their own ways but at least they won't try to let smallpox and polio make a comeback.

No. 116447

>>116444
This. They go on and on about freedom, but nearly always mean "Freedom to agree with me or not have an opinion".

No. 116448

We fucked now

No. 116449

>>116447
You have to be retarded to think being disappointed with the results of the election is same as not wanting other people to have freedom.

No. 116450

>>116449
And you have to be retarded to realise that I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about how people insult and attack others for making the "wrong" choice in the election, or other political decisions.

No. 116451

>>116444
A lot of people try to be respectful of others’ political views. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you 100%, doesn’t mean they’re objectively wrong.

When it comes to today, respect for those who caused this to happen is not an option.

Anyone who voted for this man, a man who rapes, lies, abuses, slanders, sues, threatens, mocks, and is unapologetic about it all… shares the blame. For what is going to happen to everyone. Including them.

Consider planned parenthood defunded. Universal healthcare? Forget about it. Gun control is out of the question. Gay marriage could even be taken away. Think of all the deaths that will directly result from this. More gun deaths, deaths from unsafe abortions, regular beatings upon beatings and verbal abuse directed openly at minorities.

And after standing impatiently behind trump all this time, the republican party had kept the senate and house of representatives. This is a dangerously conservative group whose fucked up narcissist leader won’t even listen to them.

Today roughly half of America voted for a man who has no respect for anyone who doesn’t look exactly like him. A man who has raped, assaulted, who has abused his power and who will be given control of NUCLEAR WEAPONS. A man who cannot be trusted to tweet on his own, let alone be in charge of the safety, economics and health of millions, no, billions of people, once you take into account how many people he will threaten with said nukes.

Today is a terrible day for America.

No. 116452

>>116451
This has to be bait. Please don't tell me you actually believe all this shit you're typing, because as soon as you used the shit "trump's a rapist!" meme, you just turned your entire post into a joke.

No. 116453

>>116452
>"trump is a rapist" meme

lol

No. 116455

>>116452
>implying it's a meme

No. 116456

>lolcow.farm
>Worships the pop-culture of countries well to the right of Donald Trump
>hates Donald Trump and considers anything associated with him to be unconscionable

Hmmm

No. 116457

>>116456
What's your point?

No. 116458

>>116451
>Consider planned parenthood defunded.

wrekt

>Universal healthcare? Forget about it.


It never existed. The US already has two insurance plans that proportionally cost more than our entire NHS. Obama's plan was literally to tack on a THIRD plan with money that didn't exist.

>Gay marriage could even be taken away


I hope so.

>Think of all the deaths that will directly result from this.


Yes, totally unlike the deaths that would be caused by laying down a clear casus belli in establishing a no fly zone over Syria. Totally unlike Clinton's war in Libya that has killed 50,000 so far. Or her husband's wars in the Balkans where they were bombing Serbian hospitals.

>This is a dangerously conservative group


If Trump is "dangerously conservative", then what do you think of the LDP, PAP, Chinese Communist Party, United Russia, AKP etc?

You need to understand that what you believe in isn't some default belief held by all of humanity. It's ideology, and it's an ideology that is DYING.

>>116457
It's self-evident, moron.

No. 116459

>>116438
Want to know who the most dangerous politician in the western world is?

Justin Trudeau. He effortlessly combines neo-liberal economics with side-show social liberal policies to distract dumb, useless-degree holding hoi polloi like you ("Gender neutral bathrooms? Dude is AWESOME. 2016 bitches!")

Justin Trudeau is the template people like George Soros want to export all over the world. People who will quite happily cheerlead and champion free trade agreements that wreck local industry everywhere while simultaneously throwing idiotic millenial trash a few crumbs by declaring his love of fashionable brown person cause of the month.

The endgame of the western world, as far as liberal internationalists see it, is Justin Trudeau. A harmless, useful idiot.

Mass democracy was always a mistake. The Greeks realized it 2400 years ago.

>>116424
>have been out for shitskins for months

Interracial violence in the US is overwhelmingly black on white. What world do you live in where white-on-black violence compares? The one where you draw your ideas on general trends from cherry-picked, signal-boosted CNN leading stories?

No. 116460

>>116453
>>116455
It is, because the accuser dropped charges against him and admitted to lying.

>http://ijr.com/2016/11/730761-woman-who-alleged-trump-raped-her-at-age-13-dramatically-dropped-lawsuit-now-we-know-why/

>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-rape-claim-allegation-jane-doe-suit-dropped-us-election-a7401411.html
>http://www.snopes.com/2016/11/05/trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-again/
>http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/report-woman-who-accused-trump-of-rape-made-it-all-up/
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3914012/Troubled-woman-history-drug-use-claimed-assaulted-Donald-Trump-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-age-13-FABRICATED-story.html

Keep in mind dates of these sources, most recent says
>The woman first sued Trump and Jeffrey Epstein under the name Katie Johnson - a name we know not to be her real identity - on April 26 in California federal court and filed an amended complaint in New York federal court in October, claiming she was subject to rape, criminal sexual acts, assault, battery and false imprisonment.

>'Ultimately it was discovered that Donald Trump's name had been inserted into this, he was not involved whatsoever. After that she had no credibility.'

>But she also said that in 1994 she had no idea who her attacker was and that it was only when she watched The Apprentice that she came to believe it was Trump, claiming that she could not forget her attacker's face


She's full of shit, and there's no real credibility to the other retards that came out of the woodwork to get their 5 seconds of fame either.

You can't even be bothered researching a case before you make a claim, let alone following the basis of our court system (innocent until proven guilty), so I had to assume you were kidding, but you seem to just be retarded instead.

No. 116461

>>116460
Oh, and to add, the courts also found no corroborative evidence to support her claims anyway, so even if she didn't clearly make it up, there's no evidence he actually did it.

No. 116463

>>116456
It's amusing how clueless they are that a big part of why they're so fascinated with Japan and South Korea is that the distinctiveness of their culture (or perceived distinctiveness) is a function of their racial homogeneity.

If Japan were some highly racially heterogeneous state like the US then it wouldn't really have anything distinctive about it.

The endgame of nations for most globalists are case studies like Brazil: Shitholes with no identity, tons of mulattoes and no unity except during side-show bread and circus events like football matches.

No. 116464

>>116463
>Brazil: Shitholes with no identity, tons of mulattoes and no unity except during side-show bread and circus events like football matches.

Brazil tried to have an identity but every attempt has been judged as an attempt to become socialist so they had coups sponsored by USA.

No. 116465

>>116464
>If they would have been allowed to become a socialist country, they would have had an identity

Yes of course, we all know that places like Medieval England and Japan didn't have real distinctive identities until they assumed state ownership of the means of production.

No. 116466

>>116465
You realize native brazilians have an identity of their own but they were genocided by spanish and portuguese, right?

No. 116468

>>116466
Amerindians do have their own cultures, yeah.

This doesn't change anything about what I said though - in fact it reinforces it - Racial conflict is a function of racial diversity in a given polity.

No. 116469

>>116468
So you are basically saying the fact the brazilian state kills black people in favelas to maintain an agenda and coups and corruption were all caused by racial diversity? wew, anon

No. 116471

>>116468
Double reply but fuck it.

Seriously how can you use the genocide of native brazilian as evidence that racial diversity is bad?

That happened at least 300 years ago. Of course racial diversity was bad back then. People just wanted to steal land from each other. Although it's not much different from nowadays to americans, is it

No. 116472

>>116469
I'm saying that racial conflict is a direct function of racial diversity in a given territory or polity. Japan doesn't have race-riots and a media that stirs up racial conflict every other week not because Japanese are more tolerant of non-Japanese than Whites are of non-Whites, but because, in quite simple statistical terms, the opportunities for such organized conflict are minimal in the first place through the sheer arithmetic of Japanese demographics.

Ergo, it is desirable that a state be, ceteris paribus, as racially homogeneous as is pragmatically possible.

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>>116471
>It's ok to make formerly racially homogeneous nations into multi-ethnic empire states now because money and consumer goods will magically make everyone like each other and be peaceful and negate group conflict
>just like it does in contemporary America, in Britain's predominantly Muslim/Other Minority towns (Bradford, Birmingham etc.), in the outskirts of Paris, in Xinjiang and elsewhere!

You are so dumb. So, so dumb. I'm not even aiming to be pejorative. You're just a painfully stupid moron with no understanding of the world outside of your cocooned-off eurocentric bullshit issues ("this guy wanted to touch my frizzy nappy hair!")

No. 116474

>>116472
As racially homogeneous is as pragmatically as possible but it doesn't mean crime rates or corruption are nonexistant. Japan has its' own mafia, that we all don't really know what it does but it seems to dominate many sectors in society. Their crime is more organized but still crime.

>>116473
Nice try, I'm brazilian so I know first-hand what happens in my country. Sweet ad hominem.

No. 116475

>>116473
Oh great, it's the tard posting these shitty meme pics again, that should make for interesting discussion.

Please ignore this guy, he'll just state more and more over the top shit and insist that you're an idiot for not believing it until you can't be bothered replying anymore.


I say it's the same person because it's the same retarded picture, same talking points, same posting style, same everything.

Not worth your time.

No. 116476

>>116475
People like this that come here just to post here and on /pol/ thread should be banned.

No. 116477

>>116474
> but it doesn't mean crime rates or corruption are nonexistant

Strawman.

>Japan has its' own mafia


Red herring.

>it seems to dominate many sectors in society


Naked assertion.

>Their crime is more organized but still crime.


Redundant/Red-herring.

So to sum up your argument:

Racial heterogeneity is ok because the yakuza means Japan is just as unsafe as Brazil?

Did I read that correctly or is there something I'm missing here?

>Nice try, I'm brazilian so I know first-hand what happens in my country. Sweet ad hominem.


You haven't actually offered an argument, except trying to guilt me about the settlement of South America by the Spanish (I'm not even Western European). Funny what people will resort to as their default argument of choice.

>>116475
>>116476
>muh echo chamber

Die in your rage kuffar.

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>>116477
Nice buzzwords, why don't you go kill yourself?

No. 116480

>>116478
>why don't you go kill yourself?

Because I have a career, a comfortable life and I will get to live long enough to see liberal democracy sputter and die the death it should have done two hundred years ago when it first infected stupid mercantile-class Anglos in Britain.

The real question is - why don't you kill yourself? What do you have to live for exactly? The next Venus and Manaki YouTube release?

#wrekt #notoracism #bringbackourgirls

No. 116482

>>116480
I can see you definitely have a career when you are shitposting at a wednesday morning.

No. 116483

>>116482
>Not having marketable hard skills that enable you to freelance and work from home

Enjoy that journalism degree.

No. 116484

Brazilian quadroon with iq of 80 BTFO'd.

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>>116459
>dumb, useless-degree holding hoi polloi like you ("Gender neutral bathrooms? Dude is AWESOME. 2016 bitches!")
You miss the part where I'm not American. I don't give a fuck about you or your strong feelings on gender neutral bathrooms. Your country has officially become a joke, and I am here to laugh at you.
(And tbh, Canada is doing better than you on pretty much all fronts).

No. 116486

>>116485
I'm not American either.

>your strong feelings on gender neutral bathrooms


Really? It's the central government of your country that made these sorts of things into policy issues and marketed them heavily among their electoral base.

>(And tbh, Canada is doing better than you on pretty much all fronts).


Such as? Let's see you have a stab at econometrics, should be amusing if nothing else.

No. 116487

>>116483
Kek, yeah, that what you tell all your friends anon?

Better hope no-one sees you picking up that welfare check.

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>>116486
>Really? It's the central government of your country
Literally what? What country do you think I'm from? My government is too much of a clusterfuck in itself to give a fuck about bathroom policies.
You're grasping so hard that it's a little bit embarrassing.
>I'm not American either
Sure, buddy

No. 116489

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>stuck my neck out a lot during campaign to suggest Trump not be president
>politely respect other peoples' opinions but obv get crazies attacking me
>I never liked Hillary and thought she stole the primaries a la a rigged DNC
>vow to vote third party, nobody had a problem with my stance
>literally nobody mentioned third parties until like two weeks ago when fb started pushing vote swapping ads and "dun vote third party" ads for Hillary
>last night
>Trump getting closer to being elected
>sudden influx of regressive cunts literally blaming third party voters
>completely disregarding that some people who were third party voters were never going to vote Clinton anyway but didn't want Trump (like some disfranchised GOPs)
>completely disregard that Trump won by such a landslide in big states that even if Clinton got every single third party vote she still would have lost the state
>completely disregarding the literal millions of people who chose not to vote as a form of protest or who were unfairly purged from poll lists
>completely disregard how it's our fucking right to vote for whoever we see fit for president
>completely disregard how they were saying Trump and his wife were bullies while reacting like fucking bullies themselves and trying to guilt people who had little to do w/ the outcomes bc they can't handle their disappointment with the election like adults

Fuck, let me know when Facebook calms down and people stop being fucking pricks. Even my bf is terrified to admit he voted third party to his friends because it's not worth damaging or losing friendships over, and his retarded ass friends were the ones who were posting pictures of themselves crying and acting like the fucking hairy orangutan was waiting outside their door to scalp em. Fucking ridiculous.

You know, in past elections I heard the same bullshit about voting third party but NEVER have I seen the regressive left get so volatile over it.

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>USA: First non liberal internationalist President in over 7 decades
>Russia: One party state, right-wing.
>Turkey: One party state, Islamist.
>Singapore: One party state, right-wing.
>Japan: One party state, right-wing.
>Gulf: Monarchies, right-wing.
>Near East: Secular Nationalism.
>Western Europe: Left is pretty much dead (Hollande has an approval rating of 4% LOL)
>Eastern Europe: Electoral victories for right-wing coalitions in Hungary, Poland and elsewhere

No. NO!

THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! SHUT IT DOWN!

No. 116491

>>116485
>smug Canucks
Yeah, you're so superior that's why your CAD is trash and why thousands of you are on social media right now wailing about the Trump win which will no doubt make it worse. You say it's a joke, but evidently not when it hits your wallet.

No. 116492

>>116487
>I..I bet you have no friends and are a smelly virgin
>But I bet you don't tell all your friends that you collect welfare

lolcow doublethink. You people are a laughing stock - Look at the mental illness thread on /g/, or the sexual abuse thread - huge, an entire board full of people with BPD/HPD and/or who were diddled by their dad/fucked by some older guy.

I pity you. I pity you because I used to so many of you when I wasted my time going to weebshit like cons. None of you are professionally successful (asian exceptions aside), none of you are mentally healthy, none of you have functional, healthy relationships.

And I come from a background where it's shameful to claim welfare. Even if I had to work a service-tier job to avoid that shame, I'd do it.

Work will set you free. Obsessing over mentally ill e-famous weebs won't.

>>116489
>regressive left

There's nothing "regressive" about them. They're just following through left-wing causes to their natural conclusion.

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>>116491
Why do you assume I'm Canadian just because I'm having a laugh at America's fall? I know you're distraught, but live a little, anon. Have some fun.
Honestly, I'm kind of happy for you. I'd love to be smack dab in the middle of a shitstorm like this so I'd have stories to tell my grandchildren.

No. 116494

>>116492
>They're just following through left-wing causes to their natural conclusion.

Bullshit. Plenty of progressive dems and libs who have not and are not reacting with such sensationalism and hostility. I bet you also think every conservative is an NRA member, gun-totin', anti-abortion, christian loon.

No. 116495

>>116493
Not telling us your country for one thing, and defending Canada of all places.

>stories to tell my grandchildren

Valid point tho. Something I discussed with bf last night and we had a good raff.

No. 116497

>>116494
The distinction between "left" and "right" in the current formulation is a distinction from liberalism - Between left-liberals (equality overrides property rights) and right-liberals (property-rights/liberty overrides equality) - both agree both principles are important, just prioritizing one over the other.

The thing is, if you base your entire ideology on the notion that making things more equal makes them better then yeah, you do end up where we are now. It's natural and logical to autistically create all sorts of dysfunction and conflict to see any sort of inequality in outcome (even quasi-supernatural ones like "white privilege") as things that must be ameliorated through legislation, policy and "education".

Hence our current mess.

Right-liberals aren't much better though. Individual liberty is self-destructive.

>>116493
This is you:

http://torontolife.com/city/life/tinder-tales-donald-trump-supporter/

You aren't going to have any kids, and if you do have one, it will be some IVF tard baby in your 40s.

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>>116495
I'd rather live in Canada than America, if I had to pick between the two. Less shit going on by far. They're not on the news monthly because some kid shot up their school, a cop shot an autistic person's caretaker in a panic or a terrorist group masquerading as an anti-racist group is looting cities, disrupting speeches and/or burning buildings and people.

>>116496

>still thinking I'm Canadian
>still thinking I give a fuck about any of this one way or another except for the meme magic
>still being this butthurt that your country is about to get even worse than it was before all because the MAGA memes went a little too far and rural Americans got serious for once
Listen, it's not too late to just move to Europe or something. You don't have to be this upset.

No. 116500

>>116498
>or a terrorist group masquerading as an anti-racist group is looting cities, disrupting speeches and/or burning buildings and people.

This is a problem of racial demographics. If 14% of Canada's population were Blacks, they'd have to deal with the same shit. Most of their immigrants tend to be law-abiding East Asians, so it's different.

No. 116501

>>116492
I never said anything about virginity anon, touchy subject there? Same with your hygiene, or your friends.

I just said you were probably on welfare.

>Look at the mental illness thread on /g/, or the sexual abuse thread


Shocker, a thread for talking about those experiences has people talking about those experiences in it. That's unheard of for internet forums, you sure caught me out.

>huge, an entire board full of people with BPD/HPD


Do you even know what the terms you use mean, or do you just enjoy playing armchair psychologist and using them as insults?

>None of you are professionally successful (asian exceptions aside), none of you are mentally healthy, none of you have functional, healthy relationships.


I mean, I'm a registered nurse working in a relatively presitigious hospital in my country, and have been in a relationship for going on 6 years now, but sure, you got me there.

I'm sure someone who comes here to post shitty opinions designed to be as inflammatory as possible is just a shining beacon of success that we should all aim towards though.

>And I come from a background where it's shameful to claim welfare.


You must be a big disappointment to your family then, I'm sorry about that.

>Obsessing over mentally ill e-famous weebs won't.


Who's obsessing? I come on here sometimes when I have some free time, check a few threads and then go do other shit.

Last time I saw you here you argued non-stop for like three days with a few different people though, so probably don't go throwing around accusations like that. Glass houses and all that.

No. 116502

>>116497
>making things more equal makes them better

Can you give examples of instances where equality made things more shit for people overall. I'm curious.

No. 116503

>>116500
Considering America's racial history, it's to be expected. Notice how non-refugee African immigrants to other countries (except for Somalis, who are Semitic anyway) or first-generation African immigrants to America are usually chill?
Everyone should just stay away from that shitshow of a nation.

No. 116504

Stop replying that shitty troll, unless you are really bored, then it can't be helped.

No. 116506

>>116504
Yeah, I'm only replying because I'm fucking bored as honestly, I wouldn't recommend trying to have any serious political discussion with him for anyone, you won't get it, he's clearly some sort of aristocrat who's far above such lower class activities as "political discourse" or "non-fallacious arguments".

No. 116507

>>116506
I can see he got all his buzzwords in check, it's kinda cute.

No. 116508

>>116506
Sorry I don't come to chan boards for political discourse. I just think this is funny, said as much, and apparently that triggered you enough to accuse me of being some sort of Canadian with a useless degree and a future IVF tard baby.

No. 116509

>>116504
I just wanna stay off social media where people are being as retarded and legit mean it tbh fam

No. 116510

>>116508
What? I'm not the person who accused you of being a Canadian, I'm the person who made fun of him for being on welfare.

No. 116511

>>116510
Ah, nevermind them. Guess my anon detector was off. Sorry.

No. 116512

>>116509
People are equally retard on imageboard with the bonus of saying whatever they want, it's ogre, man, nowhere is safe. Gonna buy some games on Steam and get some movies off my list to get my free time rolling because imageboards and social media aren't gonna cut it in the next few months.

No. 116513

>>116503
What? Sub Saharan Africans in France, Britain and Switzerland are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime. They even have that reputation in the far east (Nigerians in Tokyo and Africans in Guangzhou).

No. 116515

>>116513
I haven't heard about that. Do you have any sources?
>Nigerians in Tokyo
These are usually imported by yakuza specifically for illegal activity. Not sure about those in China.

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>>116516
How much of that violence is intraracial rather than interracial?

No. 116518

>>116516
So you are the pathetic Chad wannabe from the other thread?

I feel so sorry for you. Really.

No. 116519

What does everyone think of SJWs saying white people are racist/sexist for voting third party or Trump but having nothing specific to say about the minorities who did the same thing?

No. 116520

Is anyone else seeing people in their newsfeed posting suicide helpline numbers? It's really pissing me off that people are clogging the lines and depriving people who genuinely battle with mental illness every day of a service they might really need today.

All just so they can talk about how they're not happy with the result of the presidential election. It reminds me of some of the crazy cows on this website threatening suicide to get what they want.

No. 116521

>>116520

>>116514

Please share the milk with the rest of the world.

No. 116524

>>116520
I have seen some, and yeah, the people over reacting in this election is fucking crazy.

You've got people literally claiming to want to kill themselves because their candidate wasn't the most popular. They haven't even seen if Trump is good yet, just thrown a huge tantrum because they didn't get their way and tried to get some attention from it all.

I agree that it's digusting when people abuse services for the mentally ill that way, especially when they're already so full of teenagers who need someone to vent to (nothing wrong with needing that, but there's appropriate lines they should call).

You've got to wonder what the point is too, like, no-one's going to kill themselves. Sure, the most extreme sorts might cry and chuck a tantrum, but no-one's going to kill themselves unless they already had massive mental health issues, in which case over cooking dinner could have caused them to.

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>>116520
>>116521
tumblr is having such a crisis rn

No. 116526

>>116520
I saw it. I thought it was just laughs for the sjws but if people are really calling in, that's retarded.

No. 116530

>>116521
Don't think I have enough for it to be funny tbh. Also kind of afraid of exposing myself but I'll look through some public pages.

>>116524
Nobody will kill themselves over this but tumblrinas seem to maintain that it will ~literally kill them~. It's such a shitty threat. They think they're fucking special. The US has had 44 other presidents, do they think they're the first to be upset over their favourite candidate not being elected? I don't remember hearing anyone from other generations ~literally killing themselves~ over it. So fucking dramatic.

No. 116531

>>116525
>people have already killed themselves

yeah fucking right. over dramatic shits. like anything is going to happen at state level, or that congress will allow anything ultra crazy to get passed.

on another note. does anyone else expect Trump to be assassinated / there to be an assassination attempt within the year? be it a cartel hit, isis/muslim hit, an unhinged sjw, or even in inside job? fuck, it could even happen if he somehow pissed off his pal putin. there have been presidents far less hated than trump that have been killed or attacked. i just wonder how long he's got before the first serious attempt happens.

No. 116532

>>116526
I have people on my newsfeed who are usually really quiet suddenly spamming suicide hotlines with messages like "Please take care of yourselves xxxx" "Please don't go outside, people are literally dying uwu" they're 100% serious.

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An anon in the vent thread requested post-election chimp outs. Allow me to share some of my milk.

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>>116534
And more.

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>>116535
Another.

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>>116535
> tfw i live in massachusetts and they cant touch my masshealth

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>>116536
Here's a different person. I never realized how many liberal friends I had on Facebook until this election.

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Here you go, anons

No. 116541

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>>116539
Another

No. 116544

>>116531
Yeah, the whole "people have already killed themselves" shit is such crap.

I doubt that account's ever tried to, and killing yourself on Tumblr means making 10 over dramatic posts all swearing you'll do it, then saying you will and saying goodbye, then coming back a few days later and saying it failed or someone saved you and you're either fine now or in a hospital.

People don't fucking announce they're going to off themselves publically to online strangers when they kill themselves, and people don't kill themselves because they didn't get the president they wanted.

You have to wonder if people like that know how ridiculous they look.

No. 116545

>>116517
Not sure. It's hardly like it matters. Their presence is still a negative in net terms for the nation.

I know the plurality of victims of knife crime in London last year were white, and as the link says the majority of perps are black.

>>116518
Who?

No. 116546

>>116533
JFK was a prolific womaniser who would put even Trump to shame in that department. Pretty sure he had his fair share of lewd Irish talk.

No. 116547

>I can't even begin to fathom what parents are telling their children today about the world they are inheriting, the hatred that we have voted to keep, to worsen, to … celebrate.

>Today, I am so aware of my privilege, of how I won the lottery by being an able-bodied, middle-class white person … who is employed and, for the moment, has health insurance available to me. I am also aware of the privileges that have been "given" to me as a lesbian, "perks" that will probably soon be removed in one form or another.


goes on for fucking everrr
https://www.facebook.com/therealjasminsinger/posts/10154190978725892

No. 116548

>>116538
It's the complete echo chamber they create online and the corresponding punitive punishments they dole out to anyone engaging in wrongthink that has opened people's eyes up to liberalisms predominance in the public space.

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>>116548
well said

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No. 116551

I'm kind of in shock and don't really know how I feel about Trump winning…but it makes me a little happy that smug liberals didn't get their way.

No. 116552

>>116539
>>116541
>transphobic
>privilege
>shook
the great thing about these people is that they're too young to vote or are too afraid to go outside which is why Trump won. i hope they grow out of having this delicate attitude soon because the real world is nothing like what they expect their local sjw communities to be. Trump being elected goes to show that incredibly well.

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I'm Italian. For years, the entire world laughed at Berlusconi for being a complete idiot (which he is by the way) that only embarrassed himself and the country he represented, and we accepted it.
Now it's your turn America, and welcome to the Berlusconi Experience!

Btw, seriously, I didn't expect it at all. I wonder what will happen

No. 116554

>>116553
Berlusconi was the proto-Trump. I mean that in a good way. Kept out shitskins and wasn't afraid of anything.

No. 116555

>>116548
A lot of these people de facto control online "spaces" because they don't actually have jobs.

I shit you not. There's a worrying trend of what is "trending" basically being determined by lowest common denominator bottom feeders who simply are the only ones who have the time to sit on social media all day.

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More

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i cant find some of the best ones. i should have saved them as i found the last night

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another

No. 116560

>>116554
Actually no, he didn't keep out anybody. Yes, he wasn't afraid of anything but not in the good way… Let's just say that he suited the comedian career more than the politician one. I only admire the way he built his own empire, becoming so rich

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because literally hitler

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>>116560
Incorrect. Berlusconi did what Greece pre-Shitriza did, which was lock them up and not allow them freedom of movement. He also signed a good deal with Libya before Shillary wrecked that to keep the migrants out. And he stuck to his guns on ius sanguinus, which is a major pillar of making sure your country doesn't get pozzed by Africans and Asians.

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like fifty different people shared this shit

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No. 116567

>>116565
They have a point

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tranny triggered

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No. 116570

>>116563
Nope, paradoxically his government let in even more immigrants, many of them being clandestine. Are you Italian too?

No. 116572

>>116568
>I'm moving to the Pacific ocean to drown myself

Buh bye sweetie pie

No. 116573

>>116565
Scared of what?

The most violent demographic in America ten years ago were young black males, the most violent demographic in America today are young black males, the most violent demographic in America tomorrow will be young black males.

The only mass violence as far as I can see has been some blacks in LA neighborhoods rioting.

No. 116574

>>116570
Nah, Greek. I think the difference in our countries is that while we have many undesirables - they find it difficult to naturalize. Our supreme court struck down the right of children of immigrants to claim citizenship, thank Poseidon.

No. 116575

>>116574
Why do you even have immigrants? I thought your economy crashed and everything went to shit?

No. 116576

>>116575
lol, that's what I'd like to know too anon. A lot of them are funny because they say our country is shit (and it is), but they genuinely want Greek citizenship, and not just for the EU perks but to actually live here.

As with Britain, the pakis are among the worst.

What is it with pakistanis being terrible, reprehensible subhumans wherever they go?

No. 116577

>>116502
Not that's anon but Venezuela is a perfect example. A once highly prosperous country has turned to shit because Chavez imposed price ceilings on food to make it more affordable for the poor. Now the whole country faces food shortages.
My issue is that people vote for whatever pathos argument they hear. They lack fundamental knowledge on how the economy works. It doesn't give a shit about equality because it distorts incentives. Not all policies that go against econ are terrible, but most go against it's main goal, which is efficiency.

No. 116578

>>116502
There are innumerable examples, but more broadly I just think equality translates into increased chaos. Virtually everyone on earth, even liberals, agrees on some implicit level that it is hierarchy which gives us order and stability - so why establish, as a moral axiom, the very opposite of that?

If anything is axiomatically moral, it's hierarchy.

Muh Confucius.

No. 116579

>>116573
I live in Los Angeles and this is exactly what I'm afraid of. I moved from a highly gentrified area, to a ~75% gentrified area. I'm scared that these idiots will riot and loot because they always do it in their own neighborhoods and always kill their own people. Luckily we only have one fam on the block.

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kek wills it

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No. 116584

>>116333
Gay marriage and abortion can become illegal again, for starters.

No. 116587

I'm not really a Trump fan but I like watching tumblr freak out honestly. It's like the world has ended on there. This is all the entertainment I needed.

No. 116588

>>116333
literally every mexican and poc is going to lose their jobs and their homes and their friends and be violently attacked by white people until 2024 if and when we get a democrat in office again.

No. 116589

>>116588
no1curr

No. 116590

>>116333
The POTUS only has so much power, but the fact that we're red up to our eyeballs is what's gonna cinch the deal for us to regress on shit like abortion.

I wonder how the anti-gun liberals feel right about now, aside from livid and hopeless.

No. 116591

>>116589
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm…

No. 116592

>>116591
oh woops lol. considering some of the posts on /snow/, its hard to tell

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>>116594
More from this one.

No. 116596

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I'm getting really sick of the sexism angle

No. 116598

>>116451
ayy lmao

No. 116599

>>116598
top fucking kek anon

No. 116600

>>116598
shit I need to get in on this too. Anyone else want to post something stupid I can read?

No. 116602

File: 1478719524811.png (48.15 KB, 1054x434, meltdown.png)

I never had any idea how stupid my Facebook friends were until election night. I actually don't know where to begin with how factually wrong, emotionally unstable, and delusional they are in their fears. None of them are self aware enough to understand their shock factor does not make facts about Trump.

A majority are spamming "Suicide Hotlines", claiming their house or place is a "safe space" if someone needs it, and the classic "unfriend me because you didn't vote exactly how I did" and the empty threat of "I'm going to have to leave the country to Canada" when I know their broke asses can't do it plus have no friends there.

No. 116603

>>116600
Read some of the BS we've been posting from our Facebooks.

>>116595
Is a nice long one.

No. 116604

>>116602
You're a fucking idiot. He wants to gut the EPA, repeal the healthcare of 20 million, believes climate change is a hoax, the man will be a diplomatic disaster. You're too naive to understand the implications of a Trump presidency and the fact that the Republicans ALSO control the house, senate, and he's bound to appoint a fucking nut to the Supreme Court. Sanity is out the window. You're a moron. This is a frightening and terrifying time. The facts are that the man will be lead by bloodthirsty conservatives who only have THEIR BEST INTEREST at heart, as does he. Stay out of politics, you numpty.

No. 116605

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>>116604
>expecting people from imageboards have minimal common sense when it comes to actual politics and not just buzzword meme tier /pol/ shit

Wew, anon.

No. 116606

>>116604
Found the Facebook sperglord.

No. 116608

>>116548
>punitive punishments

Isn't that redundant?

No. 116609

>>116436
I'm also a bisexual woman of color and I've been chillin. These people are gonna scare themselves to death.

No. 116610

>>116607
Anon, I have a theory, since the friend thread got locked, some fake girls have been posting on the new thread. I believe more than half of the posters in this imageboard are males that found this place through /r9k/.

No. 116612

>>116604
>>116605
>>116607
I didn't vote Trump you absolute moron. If saying "they're factually wrong about Trump" triggers you this much then you're just like them. They're factually wrong about Hillary too. They probably get all their information from Buzzfeed articles and it drives me insane.

Chill out and go take your meds.

No. 116613

>>116605
No, I didn't expect that in general, it's that women populate this board and I did have some bit of faith that because this shit, you know, affects their actual lives more than guys on pol, they'd be somewhat sensible (can still lean to alt-right without voting for your own downfall) but of course the pressure to be cool and fit in with alt-right males and /pol/ culture was/is too strong. They're pathetic. They're like the "gamer girls" posing seductively with an Xbox controller x2000.

>>116610
Are they still coming here? Wow, sad. That shit happened so long ago…

No. 116615

>>116610
What did >>116607 say?

No. 116616

>>116612
What are they "factually wrong" about, regarding Trump?

No. 116619

>>116613
I believe most of the people following this alt-right trend are people who have few education and are easily manipulated. I notice a lot of people are uneducated about actual politics, writers, methods and whatnot but still will follow what /pol/ says because it's convenient for them. Mostly white people, as well.

As for the robots, a few weeks ago there was some CP raids in every board esp. /g/, they are still here, doesn't matter how many bans the mod applies, they keep coming back because rangeban doesn't seem to work or they are using proxies.

>>116615
Basically the first paragraph of the post I answered, poster deleted to reply to another post too.

No. 116620

>>116613
>i have a bit of faith in women!
>women all have to believe the same thing
>women must be Hillary voting

What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm fine with other farmers being whatever they want, as long as it's not like /pol/ tier.

No. 116621

>>116620
You have to be pretty fucking delusional to think Trump is a saint and all these people accusing him of abuse and rape are lying.

No. 116622

>>116621
lmao I can't actually tell if you're a troll or not. Having panic attacks?

No. 116624

>>116607
you're delusional if you think Clinton had any chance with the average American, and especially women, top kek faggot

No. 116625

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>>116622
>using ad hominem

Well, now at least guys can't really say a rape accusation will ruin their lives, can they?

No. 116626

>>116610
dude it's literally only three posts, the first one may have been fake or serious, but the two after were clearly making fun of the first one. why are you all so retarded?

No. 116627

>>116610
>some fake girls have been posting on the new thread.

How do you know they're not girls themselves just pretending to be fake girls? They're obviously satirical fake girls, but nothing indicates it's a male who wrote the posts.

>>116621
I'm not a full conspiracy-tard, but Alex Jones correctly predicted a few days beforehand that false rape accusations would come out against Trump.

This was before any rape accusations were claimed at all, and he said in the next few days they would come.

Alex Jones might be a bit looney but he was right that time.

>>116624
Hillary Clinton actually won the majority of white female votes, I'm serious look it up. /pol/ is apologizing to women because they're so shocked about it.

No. 116628

>>116620
I don't give a fuck about Hillary or having a woman president, it's not about that, nor did I claim it was, you moldy seacow. It's about preventing catastrophe. The man wants to execute Edward Snowden. He's a fascist windbag and he doesn't gaf about women at all. He's veritably nuts. Shove your strawman up your seeping asshole.

No. 116629

>>116621
Why are you assuming someone is a Trump supporter if they call out your delusional panic? I mean, have you heard the accusations Bill Clinton is not just a pedophile, but Hillary has covered for him?

No. 116630

>>116627
is it young white female college-educated votes? because that's expected.

No. 116631

>>116629
That was another anon.

No. 116632

>>116627
>/pol/ is apologizing to women

Not in a thousand years that would happen.

No. 116633

>>116621
>>116629
Sorry, meant to reply to >>116625

No. 116634

Someone teach Trump supporters that thinking Trump is a sack of shit doesn't make you a Hillary supporter. The human brain has enough capacity to think both of them are sacks of shit.

However, who won the election is Trump. So we diss him now.

No. 116635

>>116634
No, we diss him because he has the tact of an illiterate schoolyard bully with approximately 0 understanding of politics or even effective business protocol, and that is not safe. America is supposed to be a military leader, an influential powerhouse, and this is how easy it is to infiltrate the system? This is a security risk. He needs to be dissed because he's terrible PR for a country so purportedly powerful.

No. 116636

>>116634
No? The sperg and milk is coming from sobbing Hillary supporters and a lot is even in this thread, not Trump? Are some cows pretending to be all suddenly political for Hillary when it's about the milk? I'd love to cap crying /pol/ threads if Trump lost.

No. 116637

>>116630
Young female college-voters were overwhelmingly expected to vote for Clinton.

Non-college educated white women were expected to vote for Clinton too, but to a lesser extent.

>>116634
What if we actually like Trump? You know there's people that like Trump right?

Not everyone is one of those "yeah both candidates like suck we're just like fucked no matter what" people.

No. 116638

I didnt vote this year and have just been watching the election unfold from the middle for a while now. You can really tell who has been following this whole election through their social media, and who has actually kept up with speeches/rallies. Throwing around buzzwords like "anti LGBT" and "islamaphobic" and crying like little babies

No. 116639

>>116635
I dislike Trump but Clinton with the email scandal shows that she willingly or was completely ignorant about national security and confidential files. If I were an american I wouldn't vote for neither. However all the trumptards cheering across the internet will make it all the sweeter when potus grounds USA with his lack of any positive skills (for presidency).

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No. 116641

>>116635
You are goddamn right. However some people here claim that if you criticize Trump you are having a panic attack, kek.
>>116636
>>116637
Can't both coexist or you just don't want people taking bad things about your supreme leader?

No. 116642

>>116364
>Fucked by what?
Are you being serious, or are you seriously this retarded

No. 116643

>>116638
many in my social circles were hard right Republicans that could not vote for Trump in good conscience. tbh, they don't care about LGBT or Muslims but are distraught and had plenty to complain about w/o the LGBT or Muslim crap

No. 116644

>>116640
Erase names and pictures, retard.

No. 116645

>>116641
>isn't worshipping Hillary
>must be a Trump supporter
No, by all means, if you got something on Trump, post it here. I want to see it too. Also, fuck off, I didn't vote for him.

No. 116646

>>116644
it's been floating around idgaf

No. 116649

>>116639
Powell used a private server too. No one is complaining about his computer illiteracy. Hillary would have HAD to be more careful with her habits after the whole fiasco. She likely would have had extensive literacy training following it. It's not like it would have been hard. That's a pathetic reason to not vote for some semblance of sanity.

No. 116650

>>116643
>implying you have republican friends

White libtards are so neurotic that many really do cut themselves off from family who do not share their political views.

That's how deep the liberal sickness is in America. White kids will shit on their own parents for not being properly shitlib enough around the dinner table.

Sad when the very basis of civilization (the family unit) is degraded so thoroughly.

>>116649
Powell was an apefirmative action general.

No. 116651

>>116650
terrible bait, you're fucking stupid it's not even clever enough to be remotely funny, please get some imagination

No. 116652

>>116650
You really know about absolutely everyone's lives. Anedoctal evidence is the best evidence, as always.

No. 116653

>>116641
>>116641
>>116648
Kek, it's because there's nothing to say about Trump because he did a speech and that was it. Hillary supporters are such crying children and want something to lick their wounds with so "dissing Trump" is all they have. The milk in this thread directly from farmers is pretty great.

No. 116654

>>116653
>they are saying bad things about Trump boohoo they are #Shillary supporters

About the milk part. Likewise.

No. 116655

>>116654
idk why every other anon here think someone is supporting one or the other. You do know a lot of people voted third party or not at all, right? Go ahead and get something current on Trump if you have it. By current, I mean the past 48 hours.

No. 116657

>>116651
I assure you, I'm not baiting. You'll have to come up with some other stock response. Please refer to memory bank C.

>>116652
I see it on twitter and facebook. People unfollowing close friends and family. This isn't the Optimates vs the Populares either, this is between two people committed two divergent variant of the same fundamental ideology.

Have you ever stopped to wonder at just how like a religion liberalism is?

Separation from family is what cults demand of people. It's not any great secret that the rise of liberalism in the 19th and 20th centuries inversely correlates with the decline in traditional religion.

What you need to understand is that liberalism is not some default belief system and that it draws upon a comparatively tiny pool of not just human thought, but western thought too.

>>116653
Hillary didn't give a speech because she's a known boozer. Think about it, if you were going to jail, wouldn't you booze too after looking at the way things were going?

No. 116658

>>116655
I LITERALLY said few posts ago that you can think both are scumbags but defending one or another is retard but Trump supporters are mad about everything. lol

No. 116659

>>116657
>just how like a religion liberalism is?

Just like how every conservative is a Bible thumper?

No. 116660

>>116658
No one can tell who you are since we're all anon. Are you new?

No. 116661

>>116659
Not me.

No. 116662

>>116653
There's a lot to unpack here and respond to, but you're seriously irrational so idc. Go finish listening to Alex Jones in your piss dungeon and sucking your dad's weenie roast.

No. 116663

>>116661
Mhm, sure anon, I am real sure that you keep your religion 100% out of state business' because religion and politics don't mix. Can totally trust on that.

>>116660
What I mean is that people can't simply understand that no matter how many times you tell them.

No. 116664

>>116658
There is no reason for Trump supporters to be mad.

I'm not wholly committed to Trump but I'm still radiant after what happened. Neo-Liberalism is being handed hammer blow after hammer blow (Duterte, China, Hong Kong, Japan, Eastern Europe, Russia etc).

You guys on the left need to do some serious soul-searching. The basic foundations of your ideology are being delegitimized across the globe, it has no brand value anymore - it lost it with non-westerners long ago (just look at Duterte's rise), but now even among the people who create it, it is failing.

You need to ask yourselves why and react accordingly. Or perhaps grow up and get used to a multi-polar world, because this absurd idea you faggots have of how every people, race and civilization on earth are all on some shared journey towards the ultimate goal of all: human rights, democracy, LGBT etc. It's a fucking fantasy.

>>116659
That's a false equivalence. I don't deny that Christianity is actually a religion based on faith-based beliefs. I'm also not a Christian, and I fully acknowledge the pernicious effects of a lot of Christianity on western thought.

But still, Christianity is a religion and is acknowledged as such, liberalism is not and is believed to be the handmaiden of reason and rationality.

No. 116665

>>116640
>my pussy can be legally grabbed
what universe do these people live in

No. 116666

>>116664
You aren't a carrier of reason or logic.

No. 116667

>>116666
I didn't claim to be.

Can you define what a "carrier of reason or logic" actually is in an objective, non-emotional way?

No. 116668

>>116664
They react this way because they have personality disorders and are susceptible to hateful rhetoric. Trump voters succumbed to the idea of an enemy that didn't exist. Trump voters are 100% uninformed or shitposters. They have no idea what the actual political climate is like. They're responding to imagined villians.

No. 116669

>>116664
>Christianity is a religion and is acknowledged as such

Really? Because last time I saw many states had conservative agendas based on christian morals…

No. 116670

>>116665
Indeed, what universe that person leaves, it's legal already, only 3% of rapists go to jail already, that's technically legal already.

No. 116673

>>116668
>imagined villains

Hillary Clinton didn't just imagine the destruction of large parts of North Africa and the Near East.

She proactively engaged in it. She promised to create a No Fly Zone over Syria, she stated she would treat claims of hacking as an act of war from foreign powers they were linked to by hearsay.

I'm not sure what universe you people live on where Hillary Clinton was the better option. Perhaps if your only metric is whether or not you can get more affordable contraception, but if that's all you care about beyond the things going on above you then your Nation is doomed already.

>>116669
Liberalism is also based on part on Christian morals.

Or do you think the universalism (all humans are fundamentally the same, of equal value and morality is equally applicable) and nominalism you believe in is something that everyone on earth believes in by default?

Should we ban universalism? It is a faith-based belief with no grounding in biology.

>>116671

If I had to sum up neo-liberalism in a single sentence, it would be "it's basically what you read in the Economist".

There is no way Trump is a neo-liberal. He is opposed to unmitigated free movement of labor and capital, which is a central plank in neo-liberal doctrine. He is also opposed to the idea of the exceptionalism of liberal democracy and the moral righteousness with which it must be promoted across the globe, with is another key plank.

No. 116674

>>116673
For all I care they could ban all of these because they all suck ass.

No. 116676


No. 116677

>>116674
So you agree that human beings and groups of human beings are biologically different?

Good. Now you're catching on.

>>116675

Incorrect. Trump ran on a platform explicitly opposed to foreign adventurism. Whats more this was compounded by the fact his opponent openly touted American exceptionalism and America's duty to be the world's police (read: the guys who bomb and kill until everyone is permitted to vote).

The people in the rustbelt certainly don't support neo-liberal trade policies either.

Now I'm not naive enough to believe Trump can reshore American industry in its entirety, like it was in the 1950s, because we live in a multipolar world. But he can certainly do a better job negotiating trade deals with a policy that a) Fully understands just how valuable a market of 300 million consumers is to foreigners and - something predecessors haven't fully understood and b) Isn't in a position where allies are leveraging the US's bases as a sweetener for their own end, see Japan.

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>>116676
thx bb

No. 116679

>>116668
you mean liberals succumbed to the idea of an enemy that didn't exist.

No. 116680

>>116677
God, you are a fucking pain in the ass to discuss with. Always the bastion of logic and reason. I am just thankful I don't have to deal with you in real life.

No. 116681

>>116680
>I am just thankful I don't have to deal with you in real life.

Maybe you do. I don't talk politics IRL outside of very intimate friendships. It's a fool's errand.

No. 116682

Feels like the only allowed thing to say right now is to be dramatic, say "I love all [insert group here] people", share suicide hotlines and tell everyone to unfollow you if they like Trump

I tried staying silent and was called out for not sympathizing. Then when I did try to say something I was just a silly white European.

I want off this ride.

No. 116683

>>116456
Ikr Ironic that everyone here are weeb chicks and would murder a puppy to live in japan

No. 116684

>>116682
Dont let them silence you. Fuck em.

No. 116685

>>116681
I usually detect sperg very easily in real life so I'm safe.

No. 116687

>>116683
I often wonder whether it's just cognitive dissonance or it's some sort of weird sisyphean thing where whites view other whites as obligated to be "fair to everyone" and allow non-whites a position of racial uniqueness and degree of discrimination they preclude for their own group.

>>116685
>t. person who posts on National Enquirer - Yellow Fever Edition.

No. 116688

>>116684
Apparently the right thing to do is to fear for my online friends' lives but I'm literally Satan for thinking they need to calm down just a little.

I mean I hate Trump, and never expected him to win, but I'm already tired. It makes me anxious because I feel like I can't say anything that helps them and only makes them angry at me.
Sorry I just needed to vent a little.

No. 116689

Today was great. I wasn't expecting Trump to win, so when I found out this morning, things felt they went better than expected. The amount of vocally triggered white college girls at my work and school…it was hard to keep myself from laughing.
-white middle class girl with blue hair and sjw glasses "omg i was crying all night! it was only old white men that voted for trump!"
My college class was the best, none of the students would shut up about how scared they were, and the teacher said the faculty was feeling sad.

No. 116691

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>>116688
I'm guessing you're white.

I think the important thing a lot of young, social-media orientated white girls need to ask themselves is why they carry water for, and take so much abuse from shitty "PoC women" who treat them like crap - from an outsider's perspective.

I mean the way you describe the situation it sounds like a perennially compassionate person reaching out to an abusive person who reflexively beats up on them whenever they have a mood swing.

No. 116692

>>116687
It's really funny you think every girl who posts here is a /cgl/ regular.

No. 116693

>>116692
Ah sorry, I forgot the large cohort of users who come here for the top-tier political, social and cultural discussion.

I will endeavor to better understand your group, anon-sama ^_^

No. 116694

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>>116693
Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

No. 116695

>>116692
>Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

I didn't know we were discussing Hillary's zoplicone habit.

But ok I guess?

No. 116697

>>116691
Yeah white European. So I walk a fine line between being compassionate, underestimating the situation and being smug I guess.

I love my friends, I really do, but it sometimes is hard because I'm supposed to feel bad for not having been abused and being so privileged. Even though I never pretended I'm neither of those.

I just want them to be happy but at the same time to just shut up and wait it out for a few days at least.

No. 116698

>>116691
More divisive rhetoric coming from your pimpled balls. PoC haven't treated me like shit. I relate to them as women, and they relate to me as much as they can.

No. 116699

>>116695
I guess you have a problem with people taking medications for their mental health, you seem to lack yours.

No. 116700

>>116696
>"You need to understand, as a white woman"
>"White women need to stop doing x"
>"White girls are not good allies, here's why"

I see this sort of stuff plastered all over Salon, Slate, The Atlantic and the usual social media suspects all the time.

>divisive rhetoric


What you need to understand is that American society is already divided. All multiracial societies are divided by default.

>>116698
No need to reply twice, blood pressure kun.

>>116697
>being so privileged

Every native group should enjoy a degree of privilege in their own homeland. We already acknowledge this to a certain degree by delineating between citizens and non-citizens, although it's woefully inadequate.

To me, it seems the height of arrogance to come to another person's country, especially in what are (or rather were) de facto ethnostates in Europe and demand to be treated as a native would.

Isn't that what this board usually chews out white girls in Japan for doing?

No. 116701

>>116700
Did your mom skip buying your risperidone?

No. 116702

>>116698
>I relate to them as women

To them race is far, far more important than any "gender loyalty".

No. 116703

>>116700
>Every native group should enjoy a degree of privilege in their own homeland

It's funny you say that, because as we speak, USA is buying things from the entire world for stupid prices and bombing middle east because there is oil there, not to mention centuries of europeans exploring the entire world. So no, this so called "native privilege" only applies in your wonderland.

No. 116895

>>116694
Posting an anime picture while tryimg to prove youre not a circle lens wearing weeb. Nice.

No. 116896

>>116702
No, it's really not. Seeing as how you don't interact with them, your half-baked opinions are about as valued as a yeast infection.

Why has no one addressed the fact that Trump wants to execute Snowden?

No. 116897

>>116895
Did a girl that wore circle lens dump you?

No. 116898

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>>116703
>USA is buying things from the entire world for stupid prices

Are you suggesting that white privilege or some similar voodoo is gaming the market prices of things like transistors and semiconductor silicon from the Far East?

The price they pay is the price the market sets, just like the price people pay for American autos, foodstuffs, industrial goods etc abroad is the price the market sets (plus any tariffs).

So I have absolutely no clue what relevance this had to my point.

>USA is buying things from the entire world for stupid prices


The USA is bombing the middle east because your leaders have, over the past few decades, started to literally and wholeheartedly believe in the koolaid that liberal democracy is the final and ultimate stage of human existence. That and the fact it coincidentally whacks enemies of Israel one by one.

>centuries of europeans exploring the entire world


The attempt to pin some sort of unique historical guilt on me will not work. I'm from a group that lived under the yoke of an Asiatic empire for 400 years that made the British Empire look comparatively humanitarian and benign. I simply do not recognize your simplistic, bullshit narrative of non-whites as perennial victims and whites as perennial oppressors. It is ahistorical at worst, pandering fan-fiction to the impulses of white guilt at best.

>So no, this so called "native privilege" only applies in your wonderland.


No, it applies everywhere. Try lodging a claim as a plaintiff in a Chinese civil court, as a foreigner, against a native Chinese. You'll lose by default. You'll lose because you are a foreigner. Much the same will happen in Japan and South Korea, let alone the Gulf where such ingroup preference is inbuilt into the very fabric of the legal system.

>>116897
You're replying to two separate people now, blood pressure kun. Try to bear that in mind.

No. 116899

>>116898
>The USA is bombing the middle east because your leaders have, over the past few decades, started to literally and wholeheartedly believe in the koolaid that liberal democracy is the final and ultimate stage of human existence. That and the fact it coincidentally whacks enemies of Israel one by one.

Should mention here, anyone who believes the Iraq War was for "oil" needs to actually take a look at who the postwar Iraqi government awarded all the major oil contracts to: Hint, the largest one went to a state-owned firm called "Sinopec".

No. 116900

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>>116898
>all that strawman

No. 116901

>>116900
Where exactly?

No. 116902

>>116899
Seems like outright american idea to make a 100% screaming CHINA company to use as a decoy/proxy.

No. 116903

>>116902
Uh, Sinopec are one of the largest energy companies in the entire world. They're one of the largest companies in the world full stop.

Are you slow or just black?

No. 116904

>>116898
you sound fat

No. 116905

>>116904
I'm 6'0 and 69 kilos. My main concern is trying to put on weight, not lose it.

No. 116906

>>116685
Only spergs here seem to be some real sensitive regressive snowflakes like yourself.

No. 116908

>>116903
I'm not supposed to know that because I'm not an economics student. I'm not slow or black.

>>116905
Skeletons are as disgusting as obese men.

No. 116909

>>116908
That's not a matter of economics, anyone who has traveled would be able to tell you what Sinopec was.

>Skeletons are as disgusting as obese men.


You don't have any market value to be picky I'm afraid. High-value girls don't go for nebbish Asian men.

No. 116910

>>116905
reckon he has that short face + big nose + no chin deal combined with a skeletal figure

No. 116911

Is /r9k/ leaking again or what's with this one faggot?

No. 116912

>>116909
Just where is your evidence I date asian guys? I have never seen an asian guy irl that was taller than me to begin with.

No. 116913

>>116911
Mods are asleep or dead, seems like this fucker will keep posting until the end of his days or the day he loses his virginity.

No. 116914

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>>116912
>tall women
>desirable

Keep digging.

No. 116915

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>>116914
>170cm
>tall
Hahahhahaha you are a manlet

No. 116916

>>116909
looooool i only date tall whites but alt right faggots chase me constantly and have fucking begged me to marry them. so much for "low/no market value liberal women"

No. 116917

>>116910
>>116911
>>116912
>>116913
If you're incapable of defending your political beliefs, don't try and transparently change the subject to "robots".

Either your arguments can stand on their own merits or they can't. Simple as that.

No. 116918

can't we go back to people being dramatic on social media again?

No. 116919

>>116916
Oh please youre most likely an ugly slut and theyre looking for a quick fuck.

No. 116920

>>116917
Your arguments are all strawmen, you are impossible to argue with, always with the buzzwords, it's not funny anymore at this point, so it's decided the thread will be dedicated to mock you until you left or some admin deleted it.

>>116919
By quick fuck you mean everyday with my husband? Yeah sure anon, I love me some quickies

No. 116921

>>116918
A rough timeline of this thread:

>People laughing at Hillary supporters sperging out

>Some asspained anon comes in: "Just because they're asspained doesn't mean they're Hillary supporters, Trump is evil!"
>Ensue: Massive argument about geopolitics. Econ-anon BTFOs her.
>Original anon who went on rant about how unfair it was to assume asspained social media whiners were Hillary supporters changes the subjects to "robots" (like she does in every fucking thread)

No. 116922

>>116916
Alt right guys are pathetically ugly, manlets, fat or all of them, that's why they complain so much at Chads, because they got something they never will: good genetics

No. 116923

>>116897
Im not a lesbian :/

No. 116924

>>116919
lmfao, to marry w/o a prenup? riiiiight. alt right men are brainless incels and don't live by the mottos they squawk

No. 116925

>>116920
>Your arguments are all strawmen

Which ones specifically?

>buzzwords


Which ones specifically?

>dedicated to mock you


This thread is staying up. It's the dedicated election thread, not the "Bad Diversionary Rhetoric 101" thread.

>>116920
If you have a husband why are "alt-right" guys constantly chasing you? They're a niche internet subculture, you'd need to seek them out in the first place for that to happen.

No. 116926

>>116922
they obsess about bone structure because they know they don't have it. pua hate/redpill all look into surgeries/procedures they can have done to LOOK like strong nordic men lol

No. 116927

>>116922
Just saying its funny how hard you're trying to come off as hot when most likely you're just a slut.

No. 116928

>>116925
You realize there's at least two people calling you out on your bullshit, right?

No. 116929

>>116927
two separate anons with the same experiences regarding alt right men. both of us won't touch alt right hobgoblins and i'm personally very sexually conservative and called prude, sex negative, etc by most men SO, nice try

No. 116930

>>116926
Ikr, just look at Breivik, he was average at best but did plastic surgeries, lifted, bleached his hair, all that jazz just so he would look pretty when he got convicted lol

No. 116931

>>116926
"Strong Nordic men" do not date girls who hang out on the imageboard equivalent of the National Enquirer.

And the "alt-right" is a phantasm. It doesn't exist. At best it's a marketing term.

>>116930
Breivik's actually a pretty decent guy as far as women go, he gets a good amount of female fanmail but only stays in contact with one girl he fell for years ago.

No. 116932

>>116931
>"Strong Nordic men" do not date girls who hang out on the imageboard equivalent of the National Enquirer

I would tell you more but I'm afraid you'd find me somewhere. That's so pathetic, anon. Stop fantasizing about strong nordic men and go push some weight and eat oats. Maybe with a lot of dedication and some surgeries you can be like a counterfeit strong nordic man.

No. 116933

>>116930
>>116930
exactly! they all have the sad, sunken cheekbones, weirdo eyes, mousy hair styled with so much foul smelling hair product that they look greasy, even with their (predictable) hitler youth haircut

>>116931
oh it does exist. you wouldn't know what strong, nordic men date because you aren't one. most of you are unattractive, of like, serbian or eastern european, or english ancestry with pathetic rat faces that dream endlessly of a masculine visage that you'll never have.

No. 116934

I want to get off this ride

Wish Clinton would have won just so my social media circles could shut up about it within a few days

No. 116935

Can anyone post more Facebook and social media milk? I love this shit.

https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/796377820091981824

Have Miley in tears, crying over the fact Hillary has a vagina.

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>>116931
>fat face
>no cheekbones
>no fucking hair
>pathetic bone structure
he looks like a fucking carny from north carolina in a suit. your angst won't make you hot

No. 116937

>>116936
Can't believe that nose went through a nosejob, it still looks pretty south/eastern european.

No. 116938

>>116936
forgot to add that he has those weird turtle lips. he's objectively dogshit ugly. any women that have interest in him are just hybristophiliacs, but they're always low muscle white trash fuggos

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No. 116940

>>116936
Just imagine the kind of shitty white trash he's "dating".

The worse part is that this scumbag is gonna walk in a few years and will still get pussy from mentally handicapped girls. Literally PC saved him, if Norway didn't have its' share of PC he would be executed for what he did.

No. 116941

>>116937
Southern European men are more masculine than Northern European men though.

>>116940
That's the most hilarious part of the whole Breivik situation. All of those soft criminal justice laws were ok provided they were being used for black and brown rapists and murderers, but when Breivik suddenly got to take advantage of them, they were bad.

No. 116942

>>116941
I don't get why death sentence is so bad if the crime has critical evidences. I think it would only be questionable if they weren't 100% sure of the crime, then a life sentence would apply well.

No. 116944

>>116943
Did this conversation poke your wounds?

No. 116946

>>116942
Criminal justice systems in the west are designed to hurt people. The levels of violent recidivism are so high that there can't be another explanation. They let these "people" out of jail knowing full well they'll rape, assault and potentially kill again. They sometimes do it many times.

Bad people need to die. They need to be expunged from the population. Anything else is a dysgenic death spiral.

No. 116947

Is this the 2016 election thread?

No. 116948

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>>116935
Ask and ye shall receive.

No. 116949

>>116935
From what I've seen liberal men are the pussies with hitler youth cuts thick frame glasses and hang around feminists hoping to be fucked

No. 116950

>>116949
Nobody ever questioned that liberal men are also scum.

No. 116951

>>116948
The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me…

No. 116952

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>8 years of libtard and feminist shilling
>Still hasn't been able to get laid

No. 116953

>>116949
no, hy became popular among alt right then it spread. liberal men have beards AND hy haircut

No. 116954

>>116953
I seee

No. 116955

>>116952
Sad :(

No. 116956

>>116941
southern europeans arent desired. middle eastern men are pretty masculine looking but no one wants to look like them. just admit that you're a jealous uggo with a receding chin and shit southern european genetics and no one wants to get close to you or your warped idea of masculinity

No. 116957

>>116956
The ideal "middle eastern men" are basically Southern European passing men wearing jalabiyas.

If you think girls think Omanis and Egyptians are better looking than Italians, Spanish and Greeks, then lol.

No. 116958

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(((German))) media are now claiming it's up to Germany to defend (((Western Values))) against America.

We Euros are laughing so hard at this shit.

No. 116959

>>116956
He probably gets that logic from "Abdul gets laid but I still don't".

No. 116960

>>116957
Middle Eastern guys here pretend to be Southern European when talking to girls I've noticed. It's funny when there's an actual Italian or Greek around to call them out on it.

No. 116961

>>116935
Speaking of insane celebrity reactions, here was Gaga at a Hillary rally in Nazi attire and blonde hair. I have no idea what the fuck she was thinking, even for her, or why she was allowed to do this.

She's now protesting outside the Trump tower because "Trump is full of hate". Aren't Nazi's an iconic symbol of hate and racism to anyone not /pol/?

No. 116962

>>116961
See, the fact the entire auditorium are going crazy over here is enough to turn me off Hillary and the Dems right there.

At least you get a bit more skepticism towards celebrity fucktards among your average midwesterner. I think humans have an instinctive need to worship or adore, in the case of Christians they already have that with Jewsus, but atheist libs sublimate this instinctual desire towards celebrities and people like that.

No. 116963

>>116957
where are you from? how did your mother feel about giving birth to an angsty permavirgin'd white supremacist rocky dennis?

No. 116964

>>116687
>some sort of weird sisyphean thing where whites view other whites as obligated to be "fair to everyone" and allow non-whites a position of racial uniqueness and degree of discrimination they preclude for their own group.

this quite honestly

No. 116968

>>116964
I'm surprised you got what I was saying, I've never been able to describe it that well since it's quite a weird, emotionally esoteric thing but basically - although I feel it's driven partly by cognitive dissonance, still more of it is driven by this sort of understanding

I actually wrote a little thing that gained some notoriety years ago about the Sochi Olympics that drew upon this. Remember how libs were furious about Putin's re-agglomeration of existing Russian constituent state law into a Duma-approved federal law against teaching homosexuality in schools? Remember how it elicited hyper-ventilation tier rage from libs? To the point there were calls to boycott Sochi?

It's worth bearing in mind no such boycott has ever been called for Qatar's hosting of the 2022 World Cup, despite their own anti-homosexual laws being far stricter and harsher. In fact I can barely find anything in the MSM about it, just a few op-eds about the abuse of migrant labor in building the facilities.

But basically, my theory is that libs subconsciously see Russians as "white people" like them, and expect them to behave like other "white people" (LGBT, Human Rights, buttfucking parades and all that good stuff), whereas with browns - and most non-whites - there's no such expectation of reciprocity of values.

No. 116969

>>116968
It's because everyone expect whites to act more civilized than the rest of the world.

No. 116970

>>116963
I am betting United Kingdom.

No. 116971

>>116969
Right, but civilization and fag pride parades/human rights/letting immigrants buttfuck you have literally nothing to do with each other. This is something shitlibs don't understand.

No. 116972

>>116963
This level of asspain is just sad. Your candidate lost. No amount of petulant insults designed to get my attention are actually going to make you feel any better. Go and get some sleep or something.

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>>116972
Screaming that everyone who disagrees with you is a Hillary supporter is pretty sad, you know?

No. 116975

>>116974
You derailed this thread right here:
>>116634

>diss


Nigspeak too.

No. 116976

>>116973
That fucking white girl crying makes me laugh so much. Of course she'd be the one to cry for her "POC" friends like Mary Magdalene or something.

No. 116977

>>116968
i agree that liberals give them a pass and it's bullshit. there is a genuine blindspot for human rights offenses as long as committed by non-whites, but the rest of what you say is nuttery and you sound pathetic and insane.

>>116972
nah, i'm curious about where you're from. i'm not all that asspained as i'm an italian citizen and thankfully don't have to live through that nightmare aside from when visiting family

No. 116978

>>116977
But what you described is just a condensed version of what I stated in more words. The expectation for Qataris and Russians diverges: Why? Obviously there's some sort of subconscious thought going on that, as you said, establishes non-whites as somehow "less further down the path to true civilization" and correspondingly, not holding them to the same standards.

>where you're from


I'm the other Southern European you spoke to earlier.

>human rights offenses


Out of interest, do you believe in a God?

No. 116979

>>116975
Glad you got the internet so you can be racist here and not irl where you'd be ostracized.

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>>116979
If western countries are white supremacist superstructures, why do they ostracize and ruin people for off-color remarks about blacks and other non-whites?

No. 116982

>>116979
he's never met a black person who uses "nigspeak". love how these europeans fan the racism in the US when they've never lived there.

>>116980
because they have some modicum of decorum. you're just classless

>>116978
you spoke to more than that. i agree with you on that, and the no fly zone. that's all.

>do you believe in a God?

i'm agnostic. do you believe in a God?

No. 116983

>>116980
I am guessing you are probably under 21 years old and that's okay.

No. 116986

>>116973
"Everyone is ITERALLY SHAKING and these white boys are LITERLLAY LAUGHING I 'm cr rhhy iing n paa nsiccvvv inngh"

No. 116987

>>116975
if you think that 'diss' is 'nigspeak' then i'm starting to doubt that you have ever met a black person

No. 116988

>>116982
>because they have some modicum of decorum. you're just classless

That doesn't answer my question. If western countries are so geared towards the maintenance of white privilege, then why do they stigmatize and marginalize people who say off-color things about non-white races in a way that they don't even do, socially at least, with violent criminals?

>you spoke to more than that


What exactly?

>i'm agnostic


Ok, so what imbues people with "human rights"? What makes them anything more than ink on paper that can be overturned with a signature or three? I assume you think they're more than mere words.

>>116983
That's not an answer.

No. 116989

>>116988
>why do they stigmatize and marginalize people who say off-color things about non-white races in a way that they don't even do, socially at least, with violent criminals

Because that only happens in your imagination. If such statement was true, why Trump won the elections then, if people deem him as a racist bigot etc.?

No. 116991

>>116982
And this:

>never lived there


Is true. But I've lived in parts of Northern Europe that do have significant black populations, and they're exactly the same as their American cousins. Just as criminally inclined, just as inclined to blame everyone else (including other European immigrants).

Pretty much everywhere on earth large numbers of black people gather together is a shitty place to live.

>>116987
Diss is slang for disrespect. Dumb white people started "ironically" using it and forgot its true meaning.

>>116989
Trump did not say anything explicitly racist. He said that Mexico was "sending their worst people" to illegally emigrate to the United States. In other words implying there are several stratas to the Mexican population - most good, some bad.

The fact you interpret something as basic as stating: "A population group has good elements and bad elements" as beyond the pale proves the very point you were defending against in the first place. Do try to keep up!

No. 116992

>>116991
>Trump is not racist boohoo

lol

No. 116993

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>>116991
>parts of Northern Europe that do have significant black populations

Yeah, sure.

No. 116995

>>116979
exactly this. hillary won the popular vote. the white supremacist system voted him in.

>>116991
wtf? no, they're really not. i've lived in America and in europe, exposed to european blacks (and black immigrants) and American blacks. they're not the same. you're speaking out of inexperience. it's obvious.

No. 116996

>>116988
answer me about whether or not you believe in a God.

No. 116997

>>116991
“And isn’t it funny. I’ve got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” O’Donnell recalled Trump saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I think the guy is lazy,” Trump said of a black employee. “And it’s probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.”

No. 116998

>>116996
It's pretty obvious he's a Bible thumper.

No. 116999

>>116968
that's quite interesting, and i didn't follow the sochi olympics closely but out of curiosity i am inclined to go read up. thanks for the explanation. and while intellectually i can't really articulate the experience, yes i completely got what you were saying, i observed it with my own eyes being involved in local arts/new age community. it was like most white people would put up with nigh on racism and abuse from a small handful of black people in what seemed like hopes of obtaining some kind of gratification

sage for derailing, obviously not all black or whites people are like this but this was a very "liberal" cluster which i think has some bearing on behavior

No. 117000

>>116992
I thought you said you weren't butthurt about the election results?

Can you provide evidence of Trump saying anything that could be explicitly described as "racist"? You may as well call Obama "racist" for the various "typical white people" he made throughout his campaign and biography if you want to employ loose standards of proof like "it hurt the feelings of my poc friends".

>>116993
7% of London is black. Parts of South London especially (coincidentally the worst areas).

>>116995
>wtf? no, they're really not. i've lived in America and in europe, exposed to european blacks (and black immigrants) and American blacks. they're not the same.

See:

>>116516

Blacks commit a massively disproportionate amount of criminality regardless of the country. This idea that Blacks in Europe are somehow all upstanding gentlemen compared to those criminal American blacks is a fiction.

>>116995
>the white supremacist system voted him in.

No, a system both sides based their campaigns around and have been doing forever voted him in. Understand that campaigns are built on that, and that in a popular vote scenario, campaigns would run very differently and correspondingly the popular vote aggregate probably wouldn't be the same.

>>116996
Not really. I guess it boils down to semantics. I don't like how Christianity has retarded thought in the West especially - too much universalism, Neoplatonism would have been better in the long run.

>>116997
Trump's right on the second count (blacks are lazier, just like whites are lazier than Chinese). But that's hearsay from Rosie O'Donnell, and thus irrelevant.

No. 117001

>>117000
>he's not racist, he's just right you know

lol

No. 117002

>>116998
I don't think you realize how much of liberalism is based on Christianity.

The very idea that conquest is wrong and something you need to atone for is mired deep in Christian theology. There's a reason Mongolians aren't asking the Arabs for forgiveness, why Arabs don't teach their children to feel guilt for running the largest slave trade on earth and so on.

The idea that winning at war is something you need to feel bad about it very modern, and would have been very peculiar to people prior to the 19th century.

No. 117003

>>117002
So the answer is fedora tipping atheist or …?

No. 117004

>>117001
No, he didn't say anything explicitly racist because the only "evidence" you could provide is hearsay.

That's independent of whether or not the manufactured statements put into his mouth are true or not. Come on, we're not dealing with abstract concepts here.

No. 117005

>>117000
>London
>Northern europe

lol

No. 117006

>>117003
The person who isn't an internet caricature designed to make you feel better about your ideology collapsing all over the globe.

No. 117007

>>117005
The UK is in Northern Europe from our perspective. It's cold and rainy as fuck.

No. 117008

>>116980
Haha this. But people want to be professional victims.

No. 117009

>>117006
Every each answer you give in this thread looks like a manufactured internet caricature though.

No. 117010

>>117007
There is no our perspective in geography, you dummy.

No. 117011

>>117005
>>117001
>>116992
Do you have an argument?

No. 117012

>>117000
american blacks and european blacks have a totally different cultural backdrop. it's not the same, they do not act the same. you've admitted you cannot compare as you've not lived in america, so stop trying.

>>117004
you're responding to the wrong person.

1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to discriminating before.

1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump's Castle, accused another of Trump's businesses of discrimination. "When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor," Brown said. "It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back."
he has a long history of racism

and you're a dunce, not even aware of the shit he's done. that quote was from JOHN O'DONNELL, former president of the Trump Plaza, not fucking Rosie O'Donnell.

No. 117013

>when people won't shut the fuck up about racism and sexism and talk about the class divide

No. 117014

>>117011
I would but I feel too lazy to actually spend my time crafting arguments, I just want to poke the angry dog with a stick.

No. 117015

>>116973
whites are evilllll :(

No. 117016

>>117014
So no. Okay.

No. 117017

>>117012
Trump and his wife appeared in an episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. Funny because if that happened in the 80s, they were trying to convey being nice and appeal to black people while doing this sort of thing.

No. 117018

>>117017
or maybe he just wanted all of the publicity he could get, because he's a massive attention whore?

No. 117019

>>117018
Could be both.

No. 117020

>>117017
also, nice try faggot

Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that "the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true."

dude is unapologetically racist, sexist, and you're still trying to deny it. take his balls off your chin at take a good hard look at reality

No. 117021

>>117020
A lot of people say things about Trump that could be all true but his supporters simply dismiss it because "he couldn't have done, it's probably jealous people or liberals lying".

Do you realize how naive that is?

No. 117022

>>117008
I think the idea that white privilege exists in any systematized way, beyond basic in-group preference that all people have, is disproven at the first and most basic hurdle: Is the state set up to protect the native majority?

If not, it simply doesn't exist by default in any meaningful, institutionalized way, since guaranteeing

>>117009
So because I said I'm technically agnostic on the subject of God, I'm a fedora? Even though I'm explicitly opposed to anti-religious rhetoric and "humanism"?

What exactly do you have to do to not be considered an internet caricature? Post about how depressing your life is in one of the myriad mental illness/sexual abuse threads around here?

>>117012
>american blacks and european blacks have a totally different cultural backdrop

They're completely alien. Most friendship groups in the UK are not particularly mixed, I live here for goodness sake. Most London boroughs are heavily self-segregating, most whites do not want to buy in shitholes like Lewisham for example.

So the principles are the same: Blacks are poor, make shit music (grime in the UK primarily), underachieve, do not generally reach the professions and do not create meaningful culture of any kind. What is more, both groups are objectively far more criminal than whites.

>>117013
Class is a fiction and race overrides it every time, because race is actually real and meaningful. There has never been a successful attempt to synergize race and class, even in a place like Cuba the racial divisions between majority-Spanish descended people and blacks are massive. Even in Communist China you had Chinese rioting at African students dating Chinese girls, after decades of Africa-Chinese friendship propaganda.

No. 117023

>>117019
>>117017
sorry if you're the sane femanon and not the 69 kilos of mixed nuts in a serbian skinsuit, i can't tell anymore, but you know what i mean

No. 117024

>>117020
Also, anon, I was pointing it out how hypocrite he was.

No. 117025

>>117024
oh ok, sorry! you know what i mean though! and yeah, i get you. spoke to my relatives today and i told them he wants to commit human rights violations and remove right to fair trial, they tell me "THAT WON'T HAPPEN, HE JUST SAID STUFF TO GET AHEAD IN THE POLLS", it's like, yeah, in 1988 he said to execute 5 innocent men to get ahead in the 2016 polls? yet liberals are "too naive"?

No. 117026

>>117023
>>117024
Friendly fire sis, we need to stop this.

If we're going to fight through the next four years of racism, sexism, anti-blackness, colorism, some seriously FUCKED UP islamophobia (how the fuck can you be phobic of the people who invented couscous?) and oppression against black bodies then we need to stop fighting with each other.

Make sure you are well equipped, because we are in for one hell of a fight: We're going to need all of that anti-racism when we move forward together. Get your sociology degrees ready, get your arguments sharpened, and fuck the white male patriarchy.

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>>117025
>innocent men

I don't think you realize how DNA exoneration works. It doesn't "prove their innocence" any more than an appeal against a prosecutor's fuckup in the Rubin Carter case proved his innocence (he almost certainly killed those people if you look at the material facts of the case).

Stop buying into this Hollywood-tier Making a Murderer shit.

No. 117029

>>117028
Yeah, because people can't be paid to manipulate evidence and a case can't be bought. Get a grip, anon.

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>>117022

>Class is a fiction

No. 117031

>>117028
even if they were guilty, calling for their execution and removal of their right to a fair trial IS a human rights violation. lucky for you, you're not american and don't need to worry and can spout off from the safety of your dimly lit basement, but this is real life for 330 million people

No. 117032

>>117022
you're embarrassing.

No. 117033

>>117021
Alot of people dismissed all the proven shit about clinton.

No. 117034

>>117032
You are a dumb libtard.

No. 117035

>>117033
what proven shit? that she used one device and a private server even though many politicians do the same because using multiple devices for each account is hamfisted and dangerous (can get lost, etc)?

No. 117037

>>117034
You are a walking stereotype of a altright trust fund kid.

No. 117038

>>117035
Not only the emails dipshit this shows how stupid you are that you know nothing else about her.

No. 117039

>>117037
You are a walking stereotype of a trustfund sjw kid….

No. 117040

>>117030
In the Marxist sense, yes. Social classes exist, but history is not the story of their conflict. In times of existential threats, ingroups double-down. Look at the Roman Republic vs. Hannibal. They accepted the leadership of an aristocratic senate because they believed in that structure of government and explicit social class makeup.

>>117029
>>117029
In the case of the central park five:

- DA didn't allow the cops to interview Reyes after his "confession".
- They didn't allow other prisoners to talk about it or speak to cops about it.
- The CP5 were rampaging through the park assaulting people randomly at the time of the rape.
- DNA was never used to convict the CP5 in the first place.

In short, fuck you and your dindu narrative. Funny how when it comes to actually dealing with rapists who aren't conveniently cherry picked rich white frat boys, it suddenly becomes a "complicated" issue and all that fiery talk about protecting women actually amounts to sweet fuck all.

You'll never see a white feminist actually advocate the death penalty for a black rapist.

>>117031
Just curious, is anyone in your country ever held to account for recidivist rapists, violent criminals and murderers? Does any parole board take responsibility for that?

>>117037
>you live in your basement
>actually you're a trust fund baby

Keep the narrative straight. Also that's not me you're replying to.

No. 117041

>>117040
ONCE AGAIN, REGARDLESS, ADVOCATING FOR TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TO FAIR TRIAL IS A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION. i'm not even going to address guilty or innocent, because it's a moot point. the fact is that you're championing someone that is proud to commit horrendous violations. the potential for unbridled catastrophe is very high

No. 117042

>>117035
Did cnn scare you away from wikileaks with that its illegal bullshit

No. 117043

I keep hearing figures that millennials voted almost purely Hillary and not a lot of them did it. Are these figures really true? This seems so much like Brexit where the younger generations claims to care about "racism" and "being united" but don't even care enough to vote. Afterwards, they cry and guilt everyone over it, and display generally how little they know about the topics at hand. I'm legitimately wondering if some even know how to fill out a ballot. Even with ignorant millennials, voter fraud in her favor, and just normal liberals who don't have much a choice, Hillary somehow couldn't win.

No. 117044

>>117040
>Keep the narrative straight. Also that's not me you're replying to.
and you're still responding to the wrong person re: basement vs trust fund. we're quite obviously two different people.

No. 117045

>>117041
I wouldn't even try to argue at this point, this person is clearly mentally troubled. He still hasn't realized he's arguing with three people. Keeps calling out contradictions thinking it's only one person. It's hilarious.

No. 117046

>>117041
Once you start using all caps you've lost.

No. 117047

>>117042
and once again colin powell did the same, along with countless other politicians, as they've admitted the policy is stupid. it's well known in washington that politicians don't follow the separate device policy

No. 117048

>>117046
>>117046
>can't address valid point
wah wah caps i'm so enlightened neoplatonism pls

No. 117049

>>117047
Its not just about that its also about the content of emails and shit she's done.

No. 117050

>>117048
Im not.that person retard.

No. 117051

>>117041
If you do not believe in a God, then your "human rights" are nothing more than ink on paper, and can be undone with a signature or three.

I already stated this.

>i'm not even going to address guilty or innocent


Which is precisely the most important point of any criminal justice system ultimately: Of maintaining domestic peace and tranquility. Unfortunately you seem to have lost sight of that.

It just baffles me you can, as a woman, be so outraged over someone wanting to execute five violent rapists, so pearl-clutchingly mad about it, and be totally ok with a revolving door prison system that releases violent men out to rape again and again and again.

>>117046
Kek'ed.

>>117047
>countless other politicians

Huh? Clue me in here, but how many secretly did it? Is it really "countless" numbers?

And everyone knows Powell was a diversicrat "we're not racist!" appointment. Dude was an incompetent.

>>117048
Calm your tits. That's not me.

>i'm so enlightened


You never did answer me. If I'm a fedora for being a mild agnostic or explicit atheist, a bible thumper for being a Christian. Then what exactly is the "right" answer? Buddhism? Jainism? Islam?

No. 117052

>>117046
>>117046
powell was doing serious, confidential business on private server too

No. 117053

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>>117051
Please notice the amount of people in this thread. There is at least 2 besides you and me.

No. 117054

>>117051
>If you do not believe in a God, then your "human rights" are nothing more than ink on paper, and can be undone with a signature or three

That's pretty pathetic, anon, we all know that people can be immoral regardless of how much dedicated they are to religion and people can have morals without depending of a religious dogmatism. After all, you hate Islam so much, right?

No. 117055

This thread has proven quite interesting. There was this initial attempt to feign disinterest and ambivalence but the mask slipped and then it went full FUCKING WHITE MALES.

My person-of-the-thread goes to the girl who claimed to be married to a handsome Nordic superman. That exchange really made me laugh. 10/10 stuff guys.

Keep it up.

No. 117056

>>117051

You're not saying anything meaningful, it's just words coming out.

No. 117057

>>117055
>who claimed to be married to a handsome Nordic superman.

Want a copy of my marriage certificate, faggot?

No. 117059

>>117053
I think they obviously do realise that. They've tried to tell you they're not certain people more than once.

No. 117060

>>117051
>>117051
>It just baffles me you can, as a woman, be so outraged over someone wanting to execute five violent rapists, so pearl-clutchingly mad about it, and be totally ok with a revolving door prison system that releases violent men out to rape again and again and again.

idiot, if you convict the wrong people and determine people are guilty without even being involved in the investigation (it's one thing if he was a detective, but he was not involved in the case, obviously) the rapists go free. god, you're fucking stupid. i've not said anything about prison terms for rapists, and i've already said to you that i think non-whites get away with shit to some degree and that it's not right.

No. 117061

>>117055
I fucking agree. This thread is gold. The best milk comes from farmers at times. I was going to go get more caps but I keep looking back at this nonsense because it's too much fun.

No. 117062

>>117055
She was my fave too

No. 117063

>>117054
>pretty pathetic

It's not a value judgment, it's a statement of fact. You ascribe supernatural qualities to simple legislation.

>people can have morals without depending of a religious dogmatism


The morality of most self-proclaimed atheists in western countries is just a secularized variant of Christianity anyway.

>>117058

>idiot, if you convict the wrong people

You haven't read the material facts of the case. The CP5 almost certainly did rape that woman, if you actually want to discuss this shit, then read at least a summary of the evidence that was brought to bear against them, instead of relying on Making A Murderer tier documentaries with an axe to grind. That's all I ask.

No. 117064

>>117057
i love you anon

No. 117065

>>117062

It's funny how if you publicly shame weebs they always claim not to be weebs reflexively. Like yeah, you just ended up in Japan/Korea, married to some guy who can barely speak your language, wearing a dress that would look better on a 4 year old out of sheer coincidence.

No. 117066

>>117065
Are you seriously thinking I'd marry an asian with a tiny dick?

I have some self esteem, anon. Wouldn't waste my time moving to another country to have to buy a vibrator.

No. 117067

>>117063
so you can't even admit that it's not the place for a random person, completely uninvolved in the investigation, unaware of the evidence, to start advocating for executions before trial even started?

No. 117068

>>117065

Why are so many female sjws weebs? Don't they realise Japan is racist and sexist!!!! No slutwalks. Terrible.

No. 117069

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Gonna go to sleep, this was funny, thanks, anons.

No. 117070

>>117067
>unaware of the evidence

We don't know this. And that goes for most people advocating their innocent too, that's the point. You're (I'm assuming) comfortable with people advocating the innocence of someone before a trial has begun.

More specifically I have no faith in Anglosphere criminal justice systems (and more widely western ones). They're literally designed to hurt ordinary people through the release of recidivist offenders. There's a feeling the endemic levels of criminality that lead to a series of random assaults ending in a rape in your country's most advanced (supposedly) city is just some sort of… background noise you need to accept.

European and American leaders need to be carted off to East Asian cities to see how things are run there, maybe the penny will drop.

>>117068
I got into an argument with someone years ago who flipped the fuck out at some anti-BLM comment I made (white girl), when I questioned her on her love of Japan and wanting to move there, she genuinely and truthfully believed that Japan was just as liberal as the US in regards to issues like immigration and social norms and culture and what have you.

I think some are delusional and some are, as mentioned above, just given the benefit of the doubt because they're "PoC".

>>117069
Welcome. Me too.

No. 117078

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Can I hop on the social media crying train too?

This was posted by a woman who is a feminist and all the other posts are by feminist women as well. I find it so distasteful and hypocritical tbh.

No. 117079

Some choice comments from leddit:

>Yep. I went full butch today (or as much as a skinny 5-foot girl can). If the country is going to elect Trump, I'm gonna look like the angry lesbian that I am.

>I'm a survivor from rape / abusive relationship and I haven't slept in over 24 hours. To know that over half of the country would rather have a man who sounds exactly like my rapist when he gaslights, talks about, and allegedly sexually assaults women vs a woman who messed up emails and is a part of "the system" made all my paranoia pop up. My PTSD is in full swing and I honestly am scared of men and women alike today. I am terrified for what they think of me, what I am worth, and how they essentially validated my rapist yesterday.
>
Lmao I'm wearing the exact same outfit. I couldn't put on mascara because I kept randomly crying. And I know this is a little melodramatic, but I wore white yesterday for the suffragettes, and it felt appropriate to wear black today.

No. 117080

>>117078
Yes please!
Lets #MakeThisThreadGreatAgain

No. 117108

>>117078
This just shows what a gross double standard your typical regressives have when it comes to women they dislike. I hate to use the term "slutshaming", but that's exactly what they'd call something like this if the woman was politically aligned with them.

Just imagine if it were Michelle Obama or something. People would be all over it, calling it tasteful nude art and attacking anyone as some puritan. How is this okay for people who claim to be feminists?

No. 117109

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traumtized

No. 117110

>>117109
That sure happened alright

No. 117111

>>117109
Yeah, I'm sure that happened.

What compels people to make up politically charged stories like this?

No. 117113

>>117078
One of the worst tit jobs I've seen yet. Trump better have bought that woman remedial work

No. 117114

>>116921
That anon was not studying economics, nor did he mention having studied econ, ever.

No. 117115

>>116975
Shitposts like this really give the pol/r9k away

No. 117121


No. 117127

>>117078
Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to join in that circlejerk and never would I do so on my social platforms, but I don't think this is appropriate for a first lady. I really didn't need to see what her tits looked like underneath her clothes. I don't think this is tasteful art, and I find it hypocritical coming from people whose campaign is literally trying to be the slogan for conservative/modest/religious values.

Additionally, if another professional female (and god forbid an ugly or fat one) had their nudes leaked you'd bet your ass their career would be on the line for it.

No. 117136


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No. 117139

>>117109
How much of this shit do you suppose is just made up?

I know some guys on /pol/ collated a huge list of confirmed "fake hate crimes". Everything from your standard blm crap to Chinese business owners painting "chink" on their own businesses.

I wonder why it's so common.

No. 117140


No. 117143

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>>110237
Hillary supporters are actually telling Muslim women to stop wearing their hijabs in public because of some invisible rise in "hate crimes" since yesterday. The left that claims to defend their religion is telling them to "blend in".

Their ignorance as to why you never take them off is astounding, too. Men in their religion could legitimately beat the shit out of them for it if they're caught without it.

No. 117144

>>117113
>>117127
I see slut shaming and judging women solely by their physical appearance is once again okay now, courtesy of the social justice and feminist movements.

No. 117146

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>>117144
>muh hypocrisy
Except for the times it was okay for conservatives to shame Michelle for showing arms when she wore dresses, right?
What feminist thinks a nude bimbo should be first lady? Sorry rational people aren't thristin' after your primped hussie.

>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/michelle-obama-look-like-a-first-lady-bobbie-lussier_n_1922236.html


Lussier: “No, she doesn’t. She doesn’t look or act. I mean, can you imagine you know, Kennedys or the Bushes or anybody doing pushups on the floor? I mean you know. That’s just not a first lady.”
Shapiro: “A lot of people wondered if there was a racial undertone to your comments.”
Lussier: “No, it’s not. I don’t care what color she is. It’s just she just doesn’t act and look like a first lady. I mean she’s more about showing her arms off. … I think that’s very inappropriate for a lot of functions that she goes to.”
Shapiro: “So do you mean it’s an issue of modesty?”
Lussier: “Yeah. It’s respect and … for being in the White House.”
Shapiro:“Fewer sleeveless dresses, fewer pushups …”

No. 117147

>>117146
Imagine if Jackie Kennedy trolled around wearing scraps of clothes that showed off her sculpy puddy tits for money!
Pft.

No. 117148

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Well, this seems to be the most prevelant meme Hillary's shills could come up with. It's everywhere. Does anyone else think the term POC is racist and marginalizing? (To use their nearly meaningless terminology.) Liberals are lumping every ethnic minority in together. Like, that sounds like the kind of thing they'd be totally against if the right came up with it.

No. 117150

Fuck I'm trying to stop myself from participating here because I honestly don't like to drown myself with hate and shit, but I think how everybody is reacting to do is very immature and some just do it just to hate with a common propaganda. It has only been a day and a lot of people have been saying ridiculously outrageous things about punching white senior citizens and burning, causing violence etc. I know it's posers who would say such things, but it's really unnecessary to help drive and contribute to negative energy.
Almost all of the people who protested and committed vandalism etc. Are all college students and highschool kids in the different states. That tells us something already.
Now I know trump is a dumbass and I personally didn't want him to win, but I didn't overdramatize or freak out like a sperg either. All of this action to cause hate (ironically) isn't completely justified because he hasn't done literally nothing yet or announced a plan or proposition after his presidency. If it happens I would understand the reason to cause destruction, burn shit, vandalize etc. But as of now everyone has yet to see what he did with his presidential power. As a PoC female, I still have yet to fucking agree with the sea of raging tards worried about KKK, lgbt and all of that stupid shit. Cause yeah it's totally plausible for trump to put a law and have us start chasing blacks and killing them. That supposedly is one of the major reasons people are crying about it- I live near North ridge and all the damn college kids are worried about the KKK

No. 117151

>>117150
>Almost all of the people who protested and committed vandalism

Anon, I know you skipped history classes, but there is no such thing as protest without "vandalism". If there is a protest, it will only be heard if property is destroyed. Otherwise it's a parade.

No. 117152

>>117151
Truth.

No. 117153

>>110237
>huffington post
You're really grasping for straws here. This isn't slutshaming because there's just nothing slutty here to shame. It's just some people arguing over menial clothing choices and not liking Michelle's personality. It happened to Sarah Palin all the fucking time too if you want to argue that. Happens when you're a female celeb of any kind and other women partake in it too. Jackie Kennedy is known as a fashion icon, for example, while Hillary Clinton would get critiqued for boring pantsuits.
>>117078
This is actually slutty and meant to be sexual. Shaming this is what actual slut shaming is. There's no clothing here to critique and her personality is inferred to be sexual and these people are shaming her for it.

No. 117154

>>117153
Meant to reply to >>117146

No. 117155

>>117151
So you obviously never heard of peaceful protesting either I'm guessing? Its still an option when literally nothing has happened yet. And people who protested in history before actually HAVE a reason to do so, unlike now. Because they were directly affected, and were actually facing serious discrimination and injustice.

No. 117156

>>117155
Peaceful protesting is called a parade.

No. 117157

>>117150
>or announced a plan or proposition after his presidency

Unfortunately that isn't entirely accurate, his "100 day plan" is a pretty popular memepost on /pol/ right now since it's been confirmed.
>http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

Now I didn't exactly freak out like a sperg or a rabid SJW either, but there are a few issues of contention. They just have nothing to do with race or LGBTQ issues. But specifically, this is why anons like >>117148 think it's shilling because people are voicing very real concerns about Trump's plan.

My main concerns are how he will treat middle and working class taxes, environment, infrastructure, and international relations. Member how Trump says he would significantly cut taxes for the working class and families? Well that's been misrepresented:
>http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/trumps-tax-cut-claims/
His plan also outlines how he'll take away investments and resourcing for alternative energies to put into infrastructure (what good does updated city waterlines do when the watershed is polluted?), force the Keystone pipeline, and pursue energies like fracking, oil, etc. He'll scrap legislation like the Clean Power Plan. No clean energies in sight because he doesn't believe in global warming. This is not in the long-term interest of our nation to pollute ourselves like a tertiary China for the sake of jobs.
>http://www.factcheck.org/2016/11/the-candidates-on-climate-change/

>>117151
>there is no such thing as protest without "vandalism"
Civil disobedience doesn't ring any bells for you?
The brown lady that sat in the white section on the bus?
Those other brown people who sat in at a restaurant until they were arrested?
Well, it does seem like a pipedream now compared to the attitudes of modern black people, I'll give you that. But peaceful protest is entirely possible and effective.

>>117153
>trying to force this slutshaming bullshit on me
I get to have a judgement on my country's first lady and her conduct. I don't have to like the fact that she's a nude model, a plagiarist, and a trophy wife. It doesn't make for a good role model for young women in this country, and it's not someone whom I'd like to have other countries see as representative of mine. She's not a beacon of morality or modesty. That's that.
Btw, Sarah Palin wasn't our first lady. She's irrelevant.

No. 117158

>>117157
According to the logic of society, when you desobey law, you are still harming public property, so it's more or less what I said.

No. 117159

Waiting for the list of peaceful protests that actually helped something in history.

No. 117160

>>117158
Lol sure that's what you said alright…

No. 117161


No. 117162

>>117156
You do know it lumps with the other protests I was talking about right lol? This parade your speaking of happened around here in North ridge and in many other states and it still caused an impact. There wasn't vandalism or any of the sort so no it can still be used in practice. This vandalism and burning of flags only happened to some protests around the country yesterday, not all.
And you missed my whole point entirely because you wanted to nitpick because you disagree.
Riot =/= protest
I honestly don't care anymore, people just want to justify violence any way they want to even tho there is no solid purpose for it

No. 117163

>>117161

>Mohist


>this sector of taoism is pretty much extinct so


>Moriori

>Tainui-Waikato

It's funny because maori were pretty much genocided lel

I could go on with the list but just because they happened it doesn't mean all of them actually helped with something.

No. 117164

>>117157
Sarah Palin is only irrelevant because she's inconvenient to your shitty double standard narrative. She ran for vice president and people wouldn't shut up over her being "too sexy". I dislike how people physically critique Michelle, Hillary, Palin, and any flavor-of-the-moment relevant female politician, but that's how shit goes.

No. 117165

>>117164
>trying to explain what is slutshame to a sheltered kid that has no experience with women whatsoever

wew anon

No. 117166

>>117165
>m-m-must be a man they called out my cognitive bias
Oh, that anon again.

No. 117167

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>>117163
>wants a list of nonviolent protests that "helped something" in history
>deliver
>"Well I don't have time to nitpick all those, so."

Baka ass motherfucker just admit you goof'd

>>117164
>She ran for vice president and people wouldn't shut up over her being "too sexy"
You mean other than being an out of touch paegant queen airhead who knew little about government or politics? Don't defend Sarah Palin, most conservatives wouldn't friendo.

No. 117168

>>117166
>cognitive bias
What the literal fuck are you on about? You're so contrived. Not everyone buys into slut-shaming mantra and there's no "bias" in pointing out the fact of those bimbettes being fucking nude while representing the party of conservatism and modesty–oh and not to mention a country.

No. 117169

>>117165
You're just proving their point about the bias with republican and democratic women being attack on by their opposing sides.

No. 117170

>>117165
>>117168
>bimbettes
>paegant queen airhead
Yeah, you're definitely the men here.

No. 117171

>>117169
There's a markable difference between people nitpicking clothing choices of a first lady and literally being morally repulsed at one who isn't educated, plagiarizes, and seals the trophy wife stereotype complete with fake tits and nude photos. Nobody with a brain wants that as their political representative.

No. 117173

>>117171
Why are you not actually worried about the country and Trump, the actual president? I'm so sick of other Hillary supporters doing shit like this. She's not a politician and is just one of his 50 wives no one cares about.

No. 117174

>>117173
>that fucking assumption
>implied I voted for Hillary
>"hurr first ladies have no play in politics"
My post is >>117157, feel free to respond to my concerns instead of harping me about that broad.
But you sound like a tard, so I doubt I'll get any meaningful response from you.

No. 117175

>>117174
>broad
Nah, I don't care to read your sperg essay.

No. 117176

>>117174
You are from London, right? Have you ever dated a japanese girl? I think I know you.

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>>117175
Facts and links are "sperg" material now, hm? Then fuck off.

No. 117178

>>117176
I'm female and from the US. Are you a UKfag? Would explain some things.

No. 117180

>>117178
Sorry, I didn't mean you, I meant the sperglord writing walls of text.

No. 117181

The milk in this thread is really fun, but does anyone else have more social media posts?

No. 117182

>>117180
Are you retarded….

No. 117185

>>117181
I'm not afraid of being outed, I guess. So I'll post a few of my favorite in a moment.

No. 117187

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>>117181
Okay, so not from my personal Facebook, but Kat's tears are the most delicious imo. Check out her Twitter or Facebook for some top keks

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>>117188
And so begins the vicious hate storm towards all white people. Cause you know, its not like gay people, blacks, or trans people are capable of voting for trump. Nope, its all whitey's fault, even though there are plenty of white people just as triggered by Trump as Kat is. I fucking hate sjw cunts.

No. 117192

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Is this true?

No. 117193

>>117192
No, that's fake.

No. 117194

I could watch this all day.

No. 117197

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lmfao

No. 117198

>>116546
I know right? The irony of using him is just hilarious to me.

No. 117199

So what happens if he doesn't incarcerate Hillary. Based on his acceptance speech, it seems like that's potentially unlikely to happen.

No. 117200

Anyone else thinking about getting an IUD before 1/20? I use the pill and never wanted the IUD option bc of pain but now I think I should get one before shit hits the fan.

No. 117201

>>117200
wow you're retarded

No. 117203

>>117200
Like seriously. Are you seriously that dumb to think that once the president elect gets inaugurated, he's going to sit right down in that Oval Office, take out a legal pad and start writing up and passing laws and overturning laws left and right, start calling in the troops to round up dem illegals and toss them over the border, and when hosting parties in his new home, take out the Big Red Button and play party games with it?
Holy shit you need to step away from the reactive people in your life and take a good look at reality.

No. 117204

Salty?

No. 117205

>>117203

Not the anon you're replying to, but he (Trump) doesn't need to. Republicans control all the branches. I'm sure someone there will find he time within the first year of election to fiddle with birthcontrol availability/price.

I don't know why so many conservatives are against free/cheap birthcontrol. It cuts down on unwanted kids who end up being supported by welfare, who grow up and have unwanted kids… rinse and repeat. The pill is relatively inexpensive, and a fuck load cheaper than the monthly welfare checks struggling single parents get or the single moms who demand child support from their baby daddies.

No. 117206

>>117205

Samefagging to add. I would sympathize with them more about not wanting to pay with it with their taxes if they weren't so adamant about not providing good sexual education in schools.

No. 117207

>>117205
Dont you dare use logic here!

No. 117208

>>117205
Not going to happen. Worry about problems happening in the now than bullshit people keep literally sobbing about because they're emotionally stunted from spending too much time on the internet.

This election is literally like ever other one. In two years the the midterms is going to flip it to the dems just like all the other midterms in recent years tended to flip to the side opposite of the president.

No. 117212

>>117208

You're right about the midterms, Trump's election will definitely bring out the democratic vote like crazy when the time comes. And i think republicans realize this. So with republicans controlling all the branches, even for two yeara, expect a lot of stuff to get done/passed before they lose the chance to have a ride so smooth.

Things took so long the last 8 years because dems held POTUS and senate, while republicans held congress. It was a tug of war when it came passing policies and such. Which is fine, but isn't a reflection of what will happen now.

No. 117213

>>117205
>I don't know why so many conservatives are against free/cheap birthcontrol.
I don't think they're against cheap anything, they just don't want to subsidize it.
Which I'd say is pretty logical, I personally don't care what anyone does with their body/life, so long as they pay for it with their own money.

No. 117215

>>117213

Then are you against all insurance? Because that's essentially what it is. You pay a monthly fee which then gets spent on people's medical fees who on the same insurance you. Would you be against people who have to take HIV/AIDS suppressant drugs for the rest of their life because their lover didn't tell then they had HIV?

No. 117217

>>117215

Samefagging to add. Insurance also wouldn't be as expensive if drug companies and hospitals weren't vampires, doing what they can to squeeze every last penny out of citizens and expecting insurance companies to pick up the majority of the tab.

No. 117218

>>117215
>>117217
I have no problem with the systems used by insurance companies, I DO have a problem with making insurance mandatory.
If you don't want to subsidize the medical care of others, you can choose to not have insurance, making it mandatory removes that choice.
Also don't see what HIV/AIDs patients have to do with my argument.

No. 117220

>>117218

I guess I see birthcontrol as a life long (if you take it regularly) treatment for unwanted pregnancies (which usually become everyone's problem when they are then supported by welfare or by their struggling baby daddies).

What I don't understand is how conservatives think think uneducated people are going to suddenly wise up about sex or sexual related things. Unless you're willing to spend you tax money on increasing the outreach of legitament sexual education, you'll be paying for their ignorance anyways in the way of welfare. And let's be honest, conservatives do not want either of these things.

So what would be a good solution? This is a good discussion were having and I'm curious what you think would be a plausible way to go about it.

No. 117221

>>117213
I am sure you'd care about birth control once USA became like India or China.

No. 117222

>>117220
I doubt you'd need to increase public school funding for a sex ed class, I think the opposition on that front is more a "muh chilrun" issue. Hell, in most cases you could just have a sex ed unit in many of the already-mandatory health classes.
As for welfare, I don't think these children or single mothers SHOULD be supported on the back of taxpayers. I can't think of many times when welfare has been a net gain for a country.

No. 117223

>>117222

I agree with you that sex ed should be manditory, but republicans have been doing a good job cutting funding to the education sector. And religious conservatives (which many of them are) would be damned to spend that money on anything that would challenge their religious morals. And then there's also the issue of making sure they are providing legitament sex ed. Many sex ed classes today cover anatomy, function, and diseases without talking about prevention and resources. Many don't even bother with the flour bag activity (which isn't really a good example of what having an infant is like).

No. 117224

>>117223
Whoa, I never said sex-ed should be mandatory.
If some parent doesn't want their kid taking sex-ed, that's their right.
That said, I do agree that cutting educational funding is an issue.
But, on the flip side that's at odds with my view that you shouldn't be forced to subsidize something you don't partake in.
I'm sure most people here realize how shitty public schools are anyways.

No. 117226

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Stop squabbling you morons. Back to the fun.

No. 117227

>>117226
These people must have never heard of the boy who cried wolf.

No. 117228

>>117224

Sorry anon, I misinterpreted what you said. And yeah, public schools are shit it's really to bad. So many poorly educated people are being pumped out into the system. I think if we want to make American great again, our government (and us) should be focusing more on that.

No. 117230

>>117221
Won't happen. Population is declining iirc, the country is generally educated, and it's also a wealthy country (not saying its citizens generally are, but the country itself), which is what happens in these places. People wait to have kids until they're stable, late 20s-30s rather than early 20s and younger, and an increasing number choose not to have them at all.

No. 117231


No. 117232

>>117231
It's sad because I bet a lot of these are real, but it's hard to tell which

No. 117233

>>117230
People wait to have kids because they can afford birth control. Poorer people won't be able to afford it anymore and there's gonna be a huge influx of new poor people in 20 years.

No. 117234

>>117231
Tbh I wouldnt be surprised if some of these a real. People suck.

No. 117235

>>117200
Unintended consequence–but I'm GLAD that his election is causing an exodus of young women to seek long-term bc and get their obgyn appointments in. Everyone should have invested in that shit long before Trump.

No. 117240

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No. 117250

File: 1478823362363.jpg (113.38 KB, 1084x825, trump's amerikkka.jpg)

the only fucking believable one

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No. 117253


No. 117254

>>117234
>>117232
You're idiots

No. 117255

If the POC are so scared of what's going to happen under at 'Trump regime', they should have gotten of their asses and voted.

A 55% turnout is a fucking joke

People who don't vote have no right to complain.

No. 117257

>>117078
I thougt sjws and feminists were against "slut shaming". Lmao. Retards.

No. 117259

>>117257
Sjws and feminists were supposed to be for equality, now its just "I want special treatment" lol

No. 117260

File: 1478828802191.jpg (787.3 KB, 1564x1026, T21TiPP.jpg)

HIGH ENERGY

No. 117262

I've been posting several missed connections on cl in my city since we had a trump protest last night, just saying really random shit like girl in blue hoodie and whatnot. trump supporters keep messaging me things like "deal with it he won" "fucking freeloaders" etc.
jokes on them, I voted for trump, so I keep calling them faggots and it's apparently throwing them off guard. one was like "surprised a libtard like you would say that. im sure your libtardian friends don't appreciate that language", another basically just said a bunch of words with the root "fuck", "fucking fuck fucker you fucking fuckhead fuck off!"
top fucking kek I can't believe I didn't think of doing this sooner.

No. 117263

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No. 117264

>>117260
His serious face avatar and overreaction is great.
>>117250
>dick (small)

No. 117265

File: 1478833470647.jpg (17.8 KB, 340x340, hehe.jpg)

>>117262
I didn't even vote, nor do I support either candidate, but I've been posting Trump memes on facebook and mining the salt. It's awesome.

No. 117267

>>117233
Poor people can't afford a box of condoms?
They can't afford to have non penetrative sex? Really?

No. 117271

>>117265
Post them anon. There are many lulz to be had from such mining.

No. 117272

>>117255
What stats are you referencing anon? I haven't seen a lot, admittedly due to the fact that I don't watch cable news or news period.

No. 117273

>>117263
This sounds straight out of the meme my sis and I made.

No. 117275

File: 1478841124559.png (54.38 KB, 750x316, IMG_2430.PNG)

My concern is for the economy only. I wish I could spam Trump memes on Facebook during this time of utter grief : - )

No. 117276

>>117275
It won't last long.
You'll soon be trolling the alt-right for getting hoodwinked.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/21/donald-trump-says-transgender-people-should-use-the-bathroom-they-want

>He should have waited another week so we could continue salt mining

No. 117280

>>117276
My Facebook feed is literally saying "bullshit" at this, so there's still salt mining. If you won't even listen to his words, then their mass hysteria is just willingly ignoring what they don't want to hear.

No. 117282

>>117267
Condoms can break.

>non penetrative sex


Yeah, let's start using coitus interruptus too. Why the fuck not?

No. 117284

>>117148
it's because they're trying to create an "us vs. them" mentality to rally the troops.

No. 117285

>>117275
I think global warming is the biggest concern regarding Trump. He needs a chat with DiCaprio.
>>117276
It would be nice if he would keep on doing this until basically swjs can't find any more excuse to hate him, and extreme righters can't find any more excuse to let Trump justify their actions. If I were Trump, I'd be annoyed by the KKK trying to leech off me, and then swjs accusing me of supporting them.

No. 117287

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>>110237
>trump wins
>bum buddies with Putin
>first lady is a slav
Our day has come
God is a slav

No. 117288

File: 1478875150927.jpg (232.87 KB, 1076x604, 16-11-11-08-37-05-664_deco.jpg)

Good lord
I mean Allah

No. 117289

>>117288
What does this even mean???

No. 117292

>>117282
>Condoms can break.
Literally every form of birth control has a chance of failure aside from complete abstinence.
Is this bait or are you just this dumb?

No. 117293

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>>117282
This is you rn

No. 117298

>>117293

because all birth control costs 15$ ayy lmao

No. 117299


No. 117300

>>117288
Yeah, let me insult the people who practice that religion by treating their garments like costumes to suit the ends of my social agenda.

SJWs are the worst.

No. 117302

File: 1478886909534.jpeg (19.72 KB, 275x150, image.jpeg)

>all these liberal tears

Delicious

No. 117303

>>117302
avatarfag go away

No. 117304


No. 117305

File: 1478888029542.png (6.07 KB, 538x180, sorewinner.PNG)

I'm really not even sure what this means

No. 117319

>>117254
Have you even seen a Trump rally? His supporters get stereotyped as racists for a reason.

No. 117321

>>117304
lol america. I love it

No. 117324

>>117298

condoms are even cheaper :)

No. 117330

>>117305
I think they're trying to say that Trump supporters are the bad people here for being kind of smug and pointing out that the people rioting because the election didn't go how they wanted are idiots.

No. 117331

>>117324
not for long :))

No. 117339

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No. 117380

>>117331
[citation needed]
let me know because i'll invest in latex right now if you've got some insider info

No. 117382

>>117319
I have, actually, and it surprisingly had a significant number of black people, who weren't paid disrupters may I add.

No. 117389

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No. 117394

File: 1478953283476.jpeg (113.96 KB, 760x506, kek.jpeg)

>>117382
Then why is every single photograph of Trump supporters rallying a sea of white people?

No. 117395

>>117394
Also, I should probably add that Trump supposedly had a staggering 1% of black voters on his side, according to this article:
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-jumps-nine-point-lead-over-trump-n623131
Somehow, I really don't think a "significant number of black people" were pro-Trump, or that Trump supporters aren't majorly a certain type of person-who happens-to-be-white.

No. 117398

>>117394
It's almost like photographers could be trying to make a political statement or get images that suit an article that goes along with it or something like that.

>>117395
These articles clearly were off, unless you think that Hillary won the election.

No. 117401

File: 1478955607282.png (1.43 MB, 1006x742, Screen Shot 2016-11-12 at 1.01…)

>>117398
But surely there'd be at least one black person in any of those photos if there were really that many of them. Even photos taken from pro-Trump and/or unbiased sources are mostly white.
And, I doubt the figure changed by much just because Trump won. It's pretty obvious who mostly supported him and who didn't.

No. 117402

>>117401
First off, there are black people in that photo, and secondly, as I said, they're looking for a certain image for the articles.

Any photo of a political rally will be mostly white though, America is mostly white people, and there was a really bad turnout of black people in this election voting from what I've read.

And the figure was likely just flat out wrong. Almost every single one showed Hillary ahead or almost definitely going to win, and then Trump won by a huge margin.

So I wouldn't rely on what polls showed as accurate in the slightest when those polls were so far off the reality.

No. 117404

>>117395
>still believing pre-election polls
Why are you a fucking idiot?
It has been shown that 8% of blacks voted for Trump. 12% of black males and 4% of black women.

No. 117410

>>117402
>First off, there are black people in that photo,
Literally where? I'm looking at it now and see none.
>as I said, they're looking for a certain image for the articles.
Why would a pro-Trump photographer want a certain/mostly white image for its supporters? Really makes you think.
>Any photo of a political rally will be mostly white though, America is mostly white people,
I'm not arguing against this, I'm just saying that there isn't really a "significant amount" of black Trump supporters, or at least far less than >>117382 was trying to imply. Like anon said, the "racist Trumpie" stereotype didn't come from nowhere.

>>117404
>still in the single digits range
That sure does sound significant.

No. 117415

>>117410
>1 out of every 12 black voters in a country with 40 millions blacks voted for Trump, this means we can pretend that they don't exist xDDDDDDDDDD

No. 117417

>>117410
You are an idiot. But >>117415 is a bigger idiot so you win congrats.

No. 117444

>>117417
Calling everyone an idiot won't make you look smarter lol

No. 117447

>>117444
B-but I really need to look smarter on an Anonymous site lol xdedededededededededede

No. 117448

>>117410
>Literally where? I'm looking at it now and see none.

Middle right, top rich, dude on the left of Trump doesn't look purely white to me either, but it could be just skin tone.

>Why would a pro-Trump photographer want a certain/mostly white image for its supporters?


Because Trump has always been pushing for an image of America at it's prime, which was mainly white. He's appealing to his voters, not in a racist way, but the whole "I'm going make America great again and reduce immigration" line doesn't look as great when you've got an audience full of ethnic minorities in your photos.

>I'm not arguing against this, I'm just saying that there isn't really a "significant amount" of black Trump supporters


As I said, there weren't a lot of black people voting full stop from what I've seen. Both sides had a terrible turnout of voters.

>Like anon said, the "racist Trumpie" stereotype didn't come from nowhere.


It comes from a very select group of people and was then applied to everyone. That sort of attitude in particular (the whole "If you don't like exactly what I do politically you're a racist") is a major part of what got Trump elected, and there was considerable discussion of it even before he did, because it's a dirty manipulative tactic designed to suppress others opinions.

And if we're talking racism, I'd argue Hillary supporters with their constant talking about how "White people" are shit or make bad allies or are all out to get minorities or ruined everything or whatever the fuck are far more racist.

Racism has never been something that only applies to minorities.

No. 117449

>>117417
Thank you for making such a substantive post. You've really contributed to the discussion.

No. 117450

File: 1478992621051.jpg (276.97 KB, 1000x1400, media_narrative.jpg)

Compared with Mitt Romney, Trump did better with ALL minority groups. The improved support from minorities was just as big of a factor as white turnout defeating Hillary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/exit-polls/

No. 117451

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>>117450
If you look at the data again, the only group Trump did worse with are WHITE PEOPLE

>t. chink

No. 117454

There also isn't a lot of minorities in trump support rallies because from what I've seen in my personal experience, some people are deathly afraid to show that they support him. It's understandable, you'll be plagued with hate and even more so if you're a minority.
I know a surprising few people who voted for him, and of course they never really told anyone else.

No. 117456

>>117450
These statistics were very interesting; thank you for sharing them.

No. 117457

I have a theory, maybe it's because obama was a better candidate than clinton.

No. 117460

>>116361

Thank you based anon.

No. 117463


No. 117464

>>117463

Because either of those things personally affect you, huh?

No. 117465

>>117464
Ya the destruction of the western family as an institution and killing of innocent lives kinda does affect me anon.

No. 117469

>>117465

"Fuck these libs and their SAFE SPACES. CRY BABIES."

"Muh traditional family! DESTROYED! BY THE GAYS! BAN THEM! I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE RIGHTS!"

Lmao. Can't and don't take you seriously. Not one bit.

No. 117471

>>117469

Gays are a factor, not the only cause. Also,they can't even practice monogamy properly, why should they deserve to get married?

No. 117473

File: 1479014783421.jpeg (210.51 KB, 750x421, sister-wives-meri-brown-should…)

>>117471

Oh, yeah, you're right. I forgot about those weird, gay orgy households. Dicks for miles. Men on top of men everywhere. Can't get away from 'em. They are dismantling the very foundation of this beloved country with their sausagefests. Our soldiers didn't die for this.

No. 117474


No. 117475

>>117474

This is your average straight couple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uQ9qAxiOBs

No. 117477

>>117471
Yeah they should respect marriage, like those couples that get married in Vegas

No. 117492

>>117465
Neither of these contribute to the destruction of the family, if anything gay marriage helps preserve the institution

No. 117506

>>116365
>>116371
Eh, I think this is more like a protest vote since in their mind don't really have a whole lot to lose. If they voted clinton everything would remain as it is, but with trump even if he won't better their lives at least they sent a message out that reads "our votes do matter" and just maybe 4 years later both parties would cater more to their bloc.

No. 117516

My two cents. Trumps an idiot, of course but a SMART idiot. He's that dick in class that did no work, made smart ass remarks at the teacher and still somehow managed to pass.
I do think after that meeting with Obama he shit himself. Alot. He has no idea what the fuck he's doing, that party is using him as the front man and it fucking worked. Now he's stuck and he doesn't know what to do, the half crazed/4-chan like policy's he made have been bulldozed by the inner works. Trump was supported by Farage, responsible for Brexit and then backtracking on the promises he made and quickly jumping ship, only doing it so Farage could fuck his wife even smuger than before. Trump thought that's genius and exactly what I can do, except I'll just sit in office and faff around, maybe shit up the world and have some laughs.
What he actually got was a very simple "…oh shit" at what he's done.

I know Hilary is fucking mad. Wanting another cold war, all the same. Trump could start that just with a stupid fucking tweet, he's back tracking so hard he's gonna be doing backrolls at this point. This election was a shit show and they need to fucking sort shit out in that crazy cesspool of a country.

No. 117517

So much salt ITT. Liberalism is dying everywhere, from the Philippines to Russia to Japan to Turkey.

Just accept reality. It's a dying ideology whose brand value is limited to white urbanites in metropolitan cities.

No. 117533

>>117517
You're misinterpreting the election results almost exactly wrong, the Democrats nominated the single most repulsive and mistrusted candidate they could find and almost won. Even if you were right, white urbanites in metropolitan cities are the only people with any money or power so they've been getting almost everything they want consistently since the start of the industrial revolution.
Metropolitan cities is a redundant phrase, but that extra polysyllable sure is impressive!

You robots aren't intelligent enough to satisfy the serious discussion needs of lolcow posters, please go back to the kiddie pool

No. 117535

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>>117533
Go fuck yourself you whiny faggot. Go be a little self-worshiping libtard, you Satan-worshiping piece of worthless shit. You think you're a good guy? You're not. You're a bad person. Everyone is bad except for Jesus. I'm sorry for you, your parents must be complete retards. And you think you can spit on this peaceful and prosperous land built by my people who worshiped Jesus/God since arriving here in the 1600s, and you think you can worship Satan on this land? You should be hanged, faggot. Now that Trump is President, you better be a good little boy. We're a lot less lenient than that faggot nigger Obama. We want a comfy society for people who worship God. If you are unwilling to submit to Jesus, the one true God, we will destroy you. If we were like Jesus, we would let you overcome us, but we are flawed sinners, who want to live in a comfy society. If you want to worship your own power instead of thanking God and repenting, if you want to worship your own strength, I'm sorry for the pain you will feel. We don't give a fuck about the 'sins of our past', nigger. God forgives those who repent. If you think that was bad, our damage output is going to be off the charts after all these years of being held down by the satanic establishment. Try us, little bitch.

No. 117536

>Journalists and pundits became so entrenched in their own perspective and bubble that they couldn't even mask their disbelief and anger over the outcome on election night. Literally until moments before the race was called for Trump, anchors and pundits were talking about Clinton's path to 270 delegates when, to anyone facing reality, it had been clear hours before that she probably didn't have one.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/366763-trump-clinton-supporters-election-won/

No. 117538

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No. 117539

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No. 117540

>>117533
Not an argument.

Whichever way you want avoid facing reality, the facts are that liberalism, as in the liberalism of the past two centuries, is in radical and terminal decline across the entire fucking globe. And this isn't even counting the defeats you are now facing on home territory in western Europe and North America.

Keep on hoping against hope that Arabs, Turks, Indians, Russians and chinks see the light. The high water mark of liberalism in China was 89 incidentally.

Dumb lolyer.

No. 117541

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>>117540
>It's the "liberalism is only a thing with privileged white city kids" meme again

No. 117542

>>117541
You know Modi is to the right of Trump right? And the BJP are a literal nationalist party? Modi was the governor of Gujarat during the 2002 pogroms against Muslims there.

Next you'll be telling me a majority of chinks hate the CCP and the Arab spring was about "human rights" too.

No. 117550

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>>117540
>liberalism is in decline
>all american states are legalizing ganja
>same gender marriage is becoming more common
>women issues are more and more discussed

lol, anon, nice strawman

No. 117551

>>117550
>Weed being legal is liberal
Que?

Hell, even in my ultra-liberal state people are getting sick of all the retardation that comes with liberalism, especially identity politics.

No. 117552

>>117551
Queer ideology is basically post modern bullshit with absolutely no theory basis. Everyone but snowflakes are tired of it.

No. 117558

>>117550
No shit. America is the center of global liberalism after all. America invented fag rights, miscegenation as moral imperative, feminism, liberal democracy as the only acceptable form of government and multiculturalism. It is the single most powerful tool the left has ever wielded in human history.

The point is that as once what reverberated in America reverberated around the world. Now what has been reverberating around the world reverberated in America.

>>117533
>muh historical materialism

No. 117559

>>117558
Feminism, gay rights, liberal democracy, all of these things started in Europe, are you on drugs?

No. 117562

>>117559
They may have started in Europe but they became what they are today solely thanks to the good aul US of A.

No. 117563

>>117542
That has nothing to do with anything, though. The fact is that liberal ways of thinking are not isolated to one group, neither are they "dying".

No. 117564


No. 117565

>>117563
I'm not saying it has anything to do with you.

I'm saying India is moving to the right. If you don't know anything about domestic politics over there that's fine, but thinking a country that moved from decades of Congress Party rule to the BJP is becoming more liberal is truly delusional.

Anyway. Laws in India on social matters may as well be meaningless. Technically there isn't a caste system, it states so in the constitution, but anyone who knows anything about India knows that's pure bullshit in practice.

No. 117566

>>117564
Isn't that the guy who denies the Armenian genocide?

And had a temper tantrum on election night?

No. 117567

>tfw Trump bans miscegenation
>tfw lolcows userbase are exiled to Southeast Asia because the japs and Koreans don't want them

No. 117575

>>117566
I laughed my ass off election night. A glorious day. He lost his shit

No. 117576

>>117454
I was a secret trump voter :^) didnt wanna get assaulted by violent liberals

No. 117578

>>117516
I hope so. I can't wait for him to shit his pants for the next 4 years.

No. 117588

>>117410
I know you're a certain black female tripfag from a certain terrible board on 4chan. Don't make this hard on yourself b.

No. 117601

>>117576
So tolerant and peaceful uwu

No. 117603


No. 117605

>>117603
Scott Adams, the Dilbert author who predicted Trump's win last summer, has also said Kanye is also one of the few who could pull it off.

Up to you if you believe him.

No. 117622

>>117588
Wat. Which "black female tripfag" am I, pray tell?
It's weird that you'd respond to a 3-day old post to make some weird accusatory internet threat.

No. 117624


No. 117847

File: 1479340998354.jpg (230.96 KB, 997x992, 1479335289313.jpg)

So have white women officially been kicked out of the sjw camp?

No. 117849

>>117847
Probably since they voted trump.

No. 117854

>>117847
All the girls holding the sign look white to me

Do you have to be blonde and blue eyed to be white to americans?

No. 117855


No. 117860

If anything they're white-passing Latinas]

No. 117868

>>117847
They're probably those whipped "allies" that think that calling out/distancing themselves from other whites will make black people like them

No. 117871

>>117601
Beating up a girl for having a different political opinion than you…Good Lord. I'm noticed a lot of articles now that Trump has been elected are making claims that racist acts have been on the rise. It makes me want to bash my head on a wall. God, these sjw media elites desperately want to make as many jabs as they can towards the imagined white bigots of the United States, to the point where it's so clearly a made up story.

No. 117873

The one in the middle looks Latina. Do you have to be super dark to be considered Latina?

No. 117879

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>>117871
The media is doubling down on their talking points since doing otherwise is confessing a political bias during the election.

No. 117882

>>117847
White women along with white men were both majority Trump supporters, can you blame us for calling them out?

No. 117883

>>117854
They don't look white at all, they look latino the one of the far left however is probably half in half or white passing.

No. 117884

>>117868
Yes, cause everything always comes back to us blacks. You do know that Latinos don't like Trump either? Those girls also look latino so it's no surprise they're upset.

No. 117888

>>117847
middles not white, left is white and there to make herself feel better (lol), and right might be white but most likely isn't. you guys got eyes or nah

No. 117891

>>117884
Upset about what? Taco bell being racist or some dumb shit?

What's funny is the liberals kept saying trump supporters would be soooo violent and angry when trump lost but now look at them. It's the other way around. Also their fake ass "hate crimes" like shittily writing whites only in sharpie over the school.bathrooms aint fooling anyone. Sjws are known for this shit.

No. 117892

>>117624
What a bunch of pieces of shit

No. 117896

>>117891
>liberals kept saying trump supporters would be soooo violent and angry when trump lost
Trump supporters literally admitted they would take up guns if Trump lost, though.

No. 117897

>>117896
Can you not see they're being fucking hypocrites? Idiot.

No. 117898

>>117897
It's hypcoritical to complain about other people sperging out when you admit that you'd sperg out if you were in their position. :^)

No. 117900

>>117898
I never said I would do anything…..They claim to be peaceful and tolerant and so much more above trump supporters when they are out there acting fucking stupid after they lost.

No. 117901

>>117900
Good thing you're not the only Trump supporter in existence, I guess? Plenty of them spoke of taking up arms and "fighting for their country's greatness" in the case of Trump losing. It's just funny that a lot of the same people are now pretending they weren't emotionally invested in things too just because they got what they wanted.

No. 117905

>>117873

Is latina a race now?

No. 117909

File: 1479366078328.png (96.12 KB, 640x1136, IMG_0871.PNG)

Oh boy.

No. 117910

>>117905

Only white people care to point out that Latinos aren't a race. The average Latino does not identify as white. We have a separate box to check anyways.

No. 117921

>>117901
This. Funny how smug trumptards immediately forgot about what their emperor said about the election results should it have gone to hillary. We know – and they themselves know – the protests would've been 100x worse.

>>117909
>how does the electorial college work

No. 117924

>>117910
That's because white people don't consider latinos white. They know that themselves and don't want to mix with whites.

No. 117926

>>117567
Are you on drugs? Cause it seems you're hallucinating a little too much.

No. 117930

>>117921
Are you implying that Trump supporters would have had protests more violent than the anti Trump supporters have?
Most Trump supporters I knew in real life seemed to have already assumed that Hillary would win. Normal middle class people. Why would they violent when they (and I) already had just accepted that Hillary would win?

No. 117934

>>117921
>We know – and they themselves know – the protests would've been 100x worse.
No, we don't. Neither do they.

No. 117941

I didn't vote for either because I'm in a blue state, just focused on local candidates.

now that trump is in and talking about hiring white supremacists I'm doing everything I can to help with protests. I feel sympathy for people in the rust belt who feel left behind and am down to talk it over with them, but I refuse to be civil to wealthy people who support trump anymore and my patience is growing really thin for liberals who can. my family had to leave their country because nobody denounced the pogroms, and I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure that never happens in my country.

No. 117946

>>117921
>How does the electoral college work

Appaarently via white supremacy and sexism according to Mark Stern of Slate: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/11/11/the_electoral_college_is_an_instrument_of_white_supremacy_and_sexism.html

even though the reason racial minority and women's votes were disenfranchised historically had to do with laws that were completely different from the specific law that established the electoral college.

No. 117949

>>117941
>Jew supporting white minoritization
>"Haha you stormfags are so crazy. Thinking we all support mass immigration and anti white policies"

Kek.

Also. You can't feel sympathy for the white working class while supporting the same policies that harm them.

Fucking neoliberal faggots. Never thought I'd see a day when the so called left were on the streets defending TPP, NAFTA and wage depressing immigration for the benefit of elites. Morally bankrupt as fuck.

No. 117950

>>117910
Many Hispanic Americans identity as white. And many more used to before the bullshit ahistorical revisionist movement called indigenismo started in the 60s.

>muh aztec heritage


Said the person with 80% of their genomic markers coming from Europe.

No. 117951

>>117882
>I can vote for my ethnic interests
>But you can't

No. 117952

>>117884
Who cares? She's laughing at white "allies" who suck up to non whites. And rightfully so. White ass patters of ugly black girls are garbage tier.

No. 117954

>>117952
Were you bullied by black girls?

No. 117956

>>117954
Do you still make threads about how depressed and unlovable you are on /r9k/? Want me to dig up the archives of your posts on there?

No. 117957

>>117873
By SJW standards, yes.

>>117949
>Never thought I'd see a day when the so called left were on the streets defending TPP, NAFTA and wage depressing immigration for the benefit of elites

yet they think it's all about muh feelings*muh equality*muh welfare check haha

No. 117959

>>117956
Guess that's a yes, with a side of projection. Didn't mean to strike a nerve.

No. 117962

>>117959
>were you bullied by black girls
>not looking to strike a nerve

Ok

No. 117963

>>117930
>Are you implying that Trump supporters would have had protests more violent than the anti Trump supporters have?
Implying? I thought it was pretty explicit.

>blah blah muh personal anecdote

lol. Trump supporters literally promised to get their guns out, not to mention trummp himself said the election is rigged should it have gone to hillary. I'll get it from the horse's mouth than you thanks.

Anyone claiming they think trumptard would be more peaceful than the protesters right now is a lying sack of shit.

>>117934
See above.

>>117946
I'm saying the fact they haven't voted didn't matter at all since their state went to hillary anyway. What the hell are you on about?

No. 117965

>>117949
Yeah, it'd be so much better if these stupid neoliberal shits supported a bunch of fiscal conservatives who want to lower taxes for the rich and compensate by getting rid of obamacare! That'd be so much better for those poor whites!

Fucking retard

No. 117967

This thread is a great reminder why I shouldn't bother discussing politics with anyone.

No. 117975

>>117965
It has nothing to do with taxation. This is what you clowns don't get. You don't just rebuild an industrial and manufacturing base from some minor changes to fiscal policy. It's about broader matters like trade and technology transfer.

White people in the Midwest do not want $10 more per week in welfare. They want real, productive, industrial and manufacturing jobs. The jobs that wall street and faceberg / silicon valley said were replaceable by services but very clearly were not.

Liberals present no solutions to the de industrialization of the West. That's why the right is winning. The present day darling of the liberal left and a living embodiment of a TED Talk, Justin Trudeau, is even more neo liberal economically than his consevative predecessor.

That should tell you just how morally bankrupt the contemporary mainstream left are.

No. 117981

>>117967
Ikr it's such a train wreck and yet I can't look away

No. 117984

>>117950

White people love to make fun of Latinos for being actually white yet they are still often times racist against them. Can't have it both ways. Sometimes I think white people so badly want to remind everyone latinos are white so they can be racist to them and not have anybody care or do anything about it.

No. 117985

>>117975
>They want real, productive, industrial and manufacturing jobs
>They want something completely unattainable
Okay thanks for telling me they're all retards and by extension you as well for thinking this demand is at all feasible.

No. 117989

>>117951
Trump isn't in your ethnic interest either, idiot. Trump isn't in anyone's interest but his own and those in the highest income tax brackets. You're a fool if you think he's seriously interested in helping middle Americans.

No. 117990

>>117984
>white people

Yes, all 1 billion white people hold these mutually contradictory beliefs.

>>117985
>They want something completely unattainable

lmao, ever since this election cycle millenial shitlibs with humanities degrees have become MACROECON EXPERTS at telling everyone else why America can't have a manufacturing or industrial base anymore because muh services economy and 'complex global interconnected trade'. It's almost like shitlibs just watch TV and regurgitate
whatever John Oliver, Conan, Jon Jewart etc parrot…

Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria.

>>117989
We shall see. If Trump even does half of what he proposes (international dis-engagement, cracking down on H1B abuses, ramping up deportations, re-negotiating NAFTA) he'll be a better President by Hillary by those facts alone.

No. 117992

>>117990
>Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria.

And let me ask you people a pointed question. Forget about rhetoric for a moment. What exactly are your politics?

They're not opposed to neo-liberal economics (Hillary, Trudeau).

They're not opposed to liberal internationalism and its wars/color revolutions (Hillary, Obama).

You're not for any sort of economic socialism (again, Hillary, Obama, Trudeau).

I struggle to understand what it is people like you who identify as progressive, or as liberal in some capacity actually stand for.

As far as I can make out, you guys support gender neutral bathrooms, trannies and mass immigration. Oh, and you don't like Russia - because he passed a harmonization of the RF's constituent states laws about sexual education through the Duma which you perceived as "homophobic". But at the same time, you're cool with Islam.

Some platform you got there.

No. 117995

>>117901
Why dont you address how hypocritical the hillary supporters where being? They try to act kike they are angels for peace and tolerance and now look at them

No. 117996

>>117995
Trump supporters have already shot into protesting crowds (happened in Portland). What have the protesters done that's so horrific? Right wing vigilantes shot at people protesting DAPL, too.

No. 117997

>>117995
Trump supporters have already shot into protesting crowds (happened in Portland). What have the protesters done that's so horrific? Right wing vigilantes shot at people protesting DAPL, too.

No. 117998

>>117995
Trump supporters have already shot into protesting crowds (happened in Portland). What have the protesters done that's so horrific? Right wing vigilantes shot at people protesting DAPL, too.

No. 117999

>>117995
>They try to act kike

"Try"?

They are literal kikes (Soros et al).

No. 118000

>>117995
>They try to act kike

"Try"?

They are literal kikes (Soros et al).

No. 118024

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>>117990
>lmao, ever since this election cycle millenial shitlibs with humanities degrees have become MACROECON EXPERTS at telling everyone else why America can't have a manufacturing or industrial base anymore because muh services economy and 'complex global interconnected trade'. It's almost like shitlibs just watch TV and regurgitate
whatever John Oliver, Conan, Jon Jewart etc parrot…

>Seriously. It's just fucking bizarre listening to cunts who were, 6-7 years ago on demonstrations against the "1%", now arguing of the necessity for NAFTA, a new cold war with Russia and a no-fly-zone above Syria.


That's one nice giant ad hom attack. Trying to keep hidden the fact that they're still right and you have absolutely nothing to provide for a counterargument whatsoever?

No. 118063

>>110265
>(contradicting herself on a daily basis)
Is this some kind of joke?
Supporting Trump and then saying this is what you didn't like about shillary? lmao.

No. 118069

>>117996
http://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=7711
>African american gangbangers with known history of drive by shootings are Trump supporters
Even the Portland police have stated the arrested culprits have no known connection to either pro-Trump or anti-Trump groups.

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No. 118295

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/17/weaponized-ideology/

man, i am so perplexed. this article:
>george soros is inciting these violent liberals!
>advocating tolerance and diversity is bad for you
>'These special snowflakes of outrage are incubated in the totalitarian atmosphere of America’s colleges and universities.'
>'They are made by having the New Left doctrines of white guilt, male privilege, black victimhood and female subjugation preached to them endlessly during their education.'
you mean history class?
i guess the lesson here is, don't send ur kids to college, 'Murrica.

No. 118308

>>117949
half of my family still lives in wisconsin, trying to find ways to maintain their livelihoods after the paper mills shut down and Walker cut funding to the schools and other public services. Every part of my upbringing taught me to fight for workers regardless of ethnicity, which is why I can't stand both parties at this point. Neoliberals found a strategy where they could pay lip service to protecting minorities without creating any real improvement in their living situation, and they wouldn't have bought into it so hard if anybody was offering anything better. Such are the flaws of a two party system.

If anything, the conservatives would've gotten their way a long time ago if they gave up the race baiting. I know plenty of conservative pro-business muslims, asians, and latinos who would've been on board if the republicans weren't so focused on demonizing them.

Workers at the bottom from all parts of the country have to come together to fix this, the only thing that stops them is deliberate efforts by both parties to treat policy creation like an ad campaign, targeting only specific demographics.

No. 118344

>>118295
Go back to screaming and burning shit on the street for peace and tolerance uwu pls

No. 118345

>>118344
how you can deny history is beyond my understanding. you're willfully stupid because you've not experienced anything but what it is to be a spoiled fuck, or cared for others.

No. 118348

>>118345
LOL you don't know me snowflake.

No. 118391

>>118344
>LOL you don't know me snowflake
well, we know now that you're the type of person to respond to political criticism by assuming your critic is some kind of hysterical, rioting liberal instead of making any attempt to rationalize/refute their commentary
which doesn't make you look good

No. 118618

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No. 118627

>>118391
pffft you respoded by trying to insult me which doesnt work because the things you chose to say you have no proof of or know me and that doesn't make you look bad? You assumed I'm a spoiled white person because I don't agree with your whining bullshit.

No. 118834

>>117896
Because its legitimate. Surely if you lived in America you would see lots of Trump signs and little to no Hillary signs even in blue states? She lost to Obama(Obama had lots of signage around when he won), no one gave a damn but suddenly everyone's pants are all pissy since she lost to a white male.

And the thing about these protests are they are not legitimate. They're paid shills. Check out O'Keefes videos on DNC members hiring homeless and mentally ill people to stir up shit.

I mean how funny is it that everyone used the same printing company across many states to get same PRINTED signs to protest? Who even spends that kind of money on a protest when they're not even working and somehow busy protesting during working hours?

No. 118836

>>118834
>mass-produced "protest" tracts
>hiring people to "protest"

geez, leftists are all about the cargo cult. they see genuine MAGAites and think they can magically create the same for hilldog through artificial means.

No. 119281

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JUST FOUND THESE IN MY COLLEGE I'M LITERALLY SHAKING RIGHT NOW FEARING FOR MY LIFE FUCK WHITE RACISTS

No. 119282

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>>119281
rofl the left one reminds me of pic related

No. 119289

>>119281
I'm sure it's very problematic for you, SJW-chan

No. 119290

>>119289
I'm sure SJW-chan will use ~sarcasm tags~ next time, Autism-chan

No. 119292

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>>119290
I can't really tell these days tbh

No. 119296

>>119281
Lmao
I've actually seen this exact type of failure drawn on my school, my old apartment building, and a fraternity house wall

No. 119307

I would laugh about the liberal salt were it not for the fact that we will most likely have to endure the disastrous consequences of electing an unexperienced, emotionally unfit loose cannon of a President.

Sorry, I just can't feel excited about this. He's destined to fuck something up so horrendously it will take years to fix.

No. 119312

>>119307
Expect to get called a SJW cuck every time you try to express those well-funded views.

No. 119326

>>119307
None of them have any "experience" in being fit leaders. This isn't china's politburo. America and other anglosphere states have been electing bullshitting lawyers for half a century now whose only experience is a talmudic understanding of the nuance of case law and duplicity. A little change is good.

No. 119340

i unironically voted for trump

No. 119342

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Good to see all the neo-libcunts who initially blamed third party voters for Clinton's defeat finally stopped posting that embarrassing shit and actually deleted the older posts they made about such nonsense to not look like idiots later.

Only realized that started happening when I tried to show one of my friends (who is a Trump supporter but wasn't in anyone's face about it) this meltdown some e-famous bitch had on me when I told her that her 'us v/ them' mentality wasn't right and that the only people "responsible" for the Trump win were his voters and non-voters. I couldn't find it anywhere in my post history and nowhere on her page despite her other political rants remaining up. She must've realized what an uneducated, undemocratic tard she sounded like and shut it down before too many people saw it.

No. 119411

I think Democrats helping Jill Stein fund the recount is a good thing.

As in the fine print says any unused millions will go right into Green Party coffers and help fund political activities. I voted for Trump and even I believe Jill scamming Hill shills out of their money is a net gain for our country.

No. 119414

>>119411
If it's in print somewhere like you said then that makes the backers morons, not victims of scamming.

No. 119897

anyone else see tomi lahren's bit on the daily show on Wednesday? shit was hilarious. that biddy deserves her own thread in /snow/, notice how her twitter is full of damage control now? not so clever without a scripted ragepost, huh

No. 119956

>>119897
Agreed.

#imstillwithher #fuckhate #rainbownation

No. 119984

>>119956
non sequitur much?
it's really bizarre how conservatives think that just because someone points out the logical fallacies in their arguments that obviously they're a supporter of the reptile-woman and, in tomi's own words, 'a bleeding heart liberal' kek
you don't need a political affiliation to recognize a spoon-fed idiot when you see one.

No. 119994

There was a full episode about Trump on a russian talk show. Emin Agalarov, a Russian-Azerbaijani muslim singer, told about his meeting with Trump 3 years ago. Trump was in Moscow for 3 days, and Emin had an idea to ask him to join in the shooting of his new video clip, as he is a big fan of Trump from his books about money. Trump said "Tell me when and how long it will take." he didn't even talk about payment. Emin said he was super nice, and they kept in touch afterwards. Trump have later invited him to New York. On one of Emin's birthdays Trump have made a sweet video. (saying things like 'you're a champ')

I don't think Trump is really that racist as he grandiosely shows up to be, and maybe the press adds more spice to the whole mess. I provided a link to the clip. I'm not saying I support any party, I just saw this the other day and thought it was very heartwarming.



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